Also, you have a link on there in which P beat warlighters 9-0, yet P is not even on your ranking list.

Also, I see your list of BR people and I have never seen any of them in any tournaments.

LOL, just looked at WG description on there:

"Gods of War is an elitist WarLight clan created by ChrisCMU and JSA. It is aimed at good to outstanding players, and is similar to WM in skill and name (Gods of War-War Masters). At the moment, it is considered by many good players as the fourth best clan in terms of skill level of members, after only WM, Apex, and AHoL. However, that could soon change as they grow, considering WG has only been around for a couple weeks.


The First Members
JSA left P because he thought some of its players hadn't improved much, and weren't learning anything and were no longer good teammates. The original 5 members were the most acitve, best players of [P]. 2-3 more members of [P] would probably be accepted if they tried out but for the moment it is only the five from [P]. They are currently in the process of inviting some friends who are good players into the clan."


How can you make the quality statement like that? Did you poll everyone on the site?

How can you say the original 5 were the best in P?

How can you say 2-3 members from P would probably be accepted? Are you running WG? You don't even have your members correct (Swiffe declined).

I don't think you should be loading these pages up with your opinions unless you have some sort of disclaimer.

After reading that, I am officially done trying to help you. I'm not going to waste my time when you are just throwing out your opinions on what our clan is about and who we do or do not want in.

I can't imagine why anyone else would want to read those pages. You didn't even bother to take content from clan leaders pages or anything.

whats got your panties in a knot?

LOL, just looked at WG description on there:

"Gods of War is an elitist WarLight clan created by ChrisCMU and JSA. It is aimed at good to outstanding players, and is similar to WM in skill and name (Gods of War-War Masters). At the moment, it is considered by many good players as the fourth best clan in terms of skill level of members, after only WM, Apex, and AHoL. However, that could soon change as they grow, considering WG has only been around for a couple weeks.


The First Members
JSA left P because he thought some of its players hadn't improved much, and weren't learning anything and were no longer good teammates. The original 5 members were the most acitve, best players of [P]. 2-3 more members of [P] would probably be accepted if they tried out but for the moment it is only the five from [P]. They are currently in the process of inviting some friends who are good players into the clan."

How can you say 2-3 members from P would probably be accepted? Are you running WG? You don't even have your members correct (Swiffe declined).

JSA wrote the two passages himself-you need to look before you leap. I'm sorry JSA and WG don't update your clan page-not my problem though. If you want the correct information to be there, put it up yourself. If you want, you can just give me the information and I'll put it on for you.

Also, I see your list of BR people and I have never seen any of them in any tournaments.

I have seen them in tournaments. They have been pretty active on the forums too:

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=4611
http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=4813

Also, you have a link on there in which P beat warlighters 9-0, yet P is not even on your ranking list.

If you read everything properly and thoroughly (instead of the 5 minute scan you seemed to have done), then you would know that only events made after I made the WCRS are used.

JSA is not the leader of WG, I am. JSA and Lolowut are the primary recruiters and top advisers, but they belong to other clans as well and did not desire to lead WG. So if you want to copy statements you shouldn't be copying his.

I assume you got the content from here, which is where YOU asserted we are like WM.

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=4669

We are not modeled after any clan in goals, structures or name.

So if you want to copy statements you shouldn't be copying his.

I copied NOTHING. JSA wrote it himself, after his return to the Wiki. I don't put lots of information on other clans when they don't give me stuff to put on-when making clan pages I just put a brief summary generally comprising of around 1-3 sentences.

Are you quite finished attempting to attack me wherever you can? You are only degrading yourself.

My system gives a representation of how good clans are in terms of skill and activity. It may not be what you would like to see (as your clans isn't as active as others in inter-clan events) but that's how it is.

My only advice to you is like it or lump it. I will continue on with this and as time goes on, more and more clans will be ranked, and my vision will be complete :) I will find the clan that is the most active, and is also successful.

@Chris - glad we made you smile :) I hope your sides don't hurt to much..

@Arun

My system gives a representation of how good clans are in terms of skill and activity. It may not be what you would like to see (as your clans isn't as active as others in inter-clan events) but that's how it is.

"inter-clan events" - why do you value infinitely higher a single match between two clans more than a team from one clan winning a tournament after a tournament versus whoever.the.f***.wants.to.compete? Don't you think such achievements are a far bigger proof of "skill and activity"? That's the very essence of the problem with you Arun - YOU see only what you want to see, and don't seem to listen to anybody who was at some point giving you a helping hand.. after all first comments were all probably meant not to troll you, but to improve your idea so that it actually would do what it was supposed to do.. but as you keep ignoring people, more and more people will turn away from you... Stop acting like a stubborn idiot and face the truth Arun. I bet if you would have listened to us, and tweak your system to make it as objective as possible, all the clans would be glad to join.. Now however you probably discourager everybody so much, they willnever treat you seriously again.. I feel sorry for you kid, I really do..

Arun, I wrote nothing of the kind. ChrisCMU is the founder. I am simply one of original members in it, along with Lolowut and Chris. I never said we were anything like [WM]. You simply made that up. We had only 3 guys who were a part of [P] originally, the original 3 members of our clan. We have since added Reza, The Unknown Ranger, and Gnullbegg. I am sure we will add more soon too.

As for this clan rankings stuff, I think you should realize that everybody views it as a joke except for you. Maybe if you got better at the game, and your clan had more than a couple decent players in it, people would take you seriously.

JSA, I only wrote one sentence of the top quote Chris posted, and none of the second. I'm on my phone at the moment so o can't get the proof now, but I should be able to get it tomorrow (wiki keeps a record of activity I think).

Wow, it seems I missed some fun... Don't know how that thread ommitted me.

Thoughts:

1) http://theunofficialwarlightclans.wikia.com/wiki/UNBEATEN_vs_War_Masters

If that is a representation of the unofficial warlight wiki, just dump the page since it has no value in terms of objective information.

2) What are those inter-clan events? You mean clan league? Outside of clan-league? And you give out points even when only 2 clans participate? Wtf is going on?

3) Question: Why good players will not be active in inter-clan events? Answer: Because it is redundant... I am playing atm in 3vs3 clan league event and objectively it is a joke/complete waste of time. Almost all teams playing there have no competetive value, which is fine, but it'll also mean I won't be playing in an event like that again. Also making any sort of ranking when 95% of participants have little to no experience in the game (unless you count forum trolling as part of a game) contradicts itself - implementing ranking implies competetiveness, but there will be none looking at the rules for the ranking and how arbitrary it is.

Sze, I know what you mean. Playing people far away from your skill set can't be that fun.

This is not a reason that you can't go and be as active as other clans. What is stopping you from battling Ahol or Apex? I think it is pride that stops you-fear of losing face. It's a shame, whatever the reason. Clan competitions are interesting to watch.

On what grounds would I delete the page you linked?

I think the real problem is that Arun has a categorizing fetish. (Wiki, Clan Ranking, etc.)

Nothing is stopping WM from battling Apex over and over, except that it might get boring and most of those people are already battling in other tournaments anyway (promotion league, clan league, etc).

The point isn't that you should scrap this, I really don't care. Just stop the charade about it being skill and activity. There is no value to skill (assuming you even scored EVERY event) because a win is 1/10 as many points as participation. You essentially reward spam, that is all. Be that as it may, just remove skill from the equation and just call it what it is, a measure of how many clan battles some do.

Anyway, what I really care about is the inaccuracies on my clan. Whether or not JSA said any of that (I'll assume not until I see otherwise), he's not the clan leader as I said. So why wouldn't you approach me about the entry in the first place?

i knew jsa wrote the description. I mean, who would be arrogant enough to say that "WG is considered by many good players as the 4th best clan on warlight, and that may change soon"

and seriously?

The First Members
JSA left P because he thought some of its players hadn't improved much, and weren't learning anything and were no longer good teammates. The original 5 members were the most acitve, best players of [P]. 2-3 more members of [P] would probably be accepted if they tried out but for the moment it is only the five from [P]. They are currently in the process of inviting some friends who are good players into the clan."

I dont give a sh*t. and its all opinion anyway Jsa, in my opinion, jsa is nowhere near the best 2-3 in P clan. :P

Chris, the blue button at the top of the page entitled edit has an arrow on the right. Scroll over it and view history. As you can see, I did put up that some P members were below JSA's skill level, but that was only information from P's page. JSA wrote 3 times as much as I did, then I simply tidied it up slightly.

I have screenshots (in .png form) but I can't get a URL to use here. Somebody posted a solution but as it was on the bugs forum, I can no longer see it :(

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=4988&Offset=20

See the pics there^ I put them in the wrong thread and I'm not going through the URL getting process again.

arun, why would you use pages and notes??? microsoft word and powerpoint is so much better :O

I could make a log in with his screen name (and you could have to). How do I know that was him? And anyway, it doesn't matter. It still didn't come from me, which is my issue.