I won't even play in the uncontested as long as you won't reveal yourselves by the way.

Because to see if a player is better than another you have to choose fair but new templates in order not let experience do everything.

I bet, that Arizidne would win it

"This means that you feel a complete player?"

It does not and I do not.

But I continue to find it amusing that you and a fellow [20] player could lose to somebody with "no europe experience." Let's say my multi-account and I played you and some random noob on Strategic 2v2. Let's say you made a couple of picks for them, like Gnuffone did for me, and maybe you even gave them a little advice on the first couple of moves too. I'd still be happy to wager that even with you being maybe the best 2v2 Strategic player around, I'd never lose a game if your teammate has really had no experience with Medium Earth whatsoever.

If ENC 3v3 is really as strategically difficult as you think it is, then you should be even more embarrassed to lose against someone who hasn't had (in your view) the prerequisite experience with that map. Or was Gnuffone just that much better at picking than you team was? That can't be, since you don't seem to think he's [20] material either.

By the way, you cannot blame a loss on your teammate if you don't help them out. That team chat's there for a reason. And to do so in a public forum ain't too classy. Just sayin'.

Was the 3v3 game cities or warlords? If cities, Aziridine's argument in his last post stands. If warlords, it doesn't. Cities: you can pick to avoid pick order luck messing your plan up. Warlords: you can try to pick so pick order doesn't mess up your plan, but it doesn't always work.

Frankly your last statement is so nonsense that it shouldn't even need a reply.

The game was a for-fun one. It means I didn't check my moves neither my team mates' ones.

In my team there was HHH too, do you think then that you are stronger than him, or that he has to feel embarassed for his play as well? (But of course I am the arrogant one)

Really I have big problems in answering you, because you are too illogical.

Are you saying that after 4 games in 3v3 ENC, you do know how to play it, or are you saying that I am a noob because I have lost a game wich I didn't even care and in wich Gnuffone helped you to do everything?

Really your points have so little sense that I just don't know how to answer you, other than laughing.

Plus the fact that you tell me that I am arrogant, it is just stupid because you don't know me, and if you would have done it, you know that one of the reasons of my grow as a player is for my modesty and objectiveness upon my abilities.

But since you have better dialectical skills than mine, you are changing the point of the discussion, and I will try to summarize it:

You made clear that in your opinion you deserve of being in [20] (that is very lame), then I've answered you, saying that even if you are a great 1v1 player you didn't enter 20 because of your lack in Europe 3v3. Then you said that since you have beaten me in a 3v3, you do know how to play it (As i said, and as I hope you will admit, this is impossible) or HHH and me do not know how to play it.

So to resume or you are the Warlight god (wich you aren't) or I don't deserve to be in 20.

But the fact that I don't deserve to be in 20 (with wich I agree by the way), how does it involves you?

So in front of your failure (of I am not responsible at any degree, I was just trying to explain you why the best players of the game didn't admit you in 20, so when you attack me, you attack also them -but yes, I am the arrogant one-), you are just trying to "destroy" other people?

Well that's mature!

By the way I won't answer you in this thread or accept any of your challenges as long as Dr.Hyde won't reveal himself, since I'm starting to think that he is your multi-account, even if I really hope of being wrong because it would be too lame.

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A final opinion upon the community:

After this thread I just do love Gui more than I did before (I'm female Gui afterall). His attitude with the forum is totally right, he just doesn't care about anything of what is happening here, and he only likes to demonstrate that everybody (included me of course) are really childish as he is, but with the difference he is so on purpose. (Hamlet plagiarizing)

I feel exactly the same (that is why I've changed my name) and from now on, I won't waste time in writing posts as this one, because trying to have a mature discussion here seems to be impossible.

Unfortunately I felt of having explained my points ver badly, but according to what I've just wrote, I don't care.
Think and say of me whatever, and if you are not mature enough to see into yourselves but just to make critiques to others, I will just feel sorry for you.

Glad I am not anywhere near the top 20 to get worked up about this.

LoL. Can i get into a B/C league (maybe im not even good for that but i dont know) :)

Aziridine and Trilussa, there is no reason for you guys to argue. You both are great players. I think Aziridine is probably better at 1v1 and Trilussa is probably better at team games. Trilussa got voted better, so he is guarenteed in. Aziridine will very likely make it in as well. You are both in [20] anyways. There is not a huge gap between A League and B League like many people seem to think. Perhaps Aziridine didn't get voted in right away because few of the top players have seen him play team games. I wouldn't necessarily say it is because he is bad at Europe, because I don't think most players have ever seen him play on that map.

Reza, Not sure where you will go yet. Probably either C League in [20] or Proving Ground League A. It depends a lot on who accepts the invites to the leagues.

Uh-huh, looks like some people are a little over-ambitious considering this is just an internet game... I think that if we can have the next seasons' leagues made by exchanging the top/bottom (say) 3 players between neighbouring leagues then nobody should be complaining about being misjudged - it will be an objective measurement of performance in the league.

Anyway, I'd like to join and I think I could find a place for myself somewhere in the Proving Grounds leagues.

I'd like to participate as well.

These 20 players are recognized as the best 20 active overall players on warlight

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I know I'm not good enough to be anywhere near considered for the A division, but I think I could possibly be very low B or even C. I would like to be thrown into the running for this if I possibly could. Not sure how to go about that though.

NoobSchool, don't worry. You're definitely going to be in B or C League, probably B League. I am going to start working on B League soon.

Billy, I might be able to get you in C League or Proving Ground League A. We'll have to see.

Honestly, I don't think I'm good enough to be one of the [20] League A. Also, I don't have time to take challenges nor fight for the clan. Could I be the ordinary member of [20] only?

Can I join B league? I win about half my games against average players and win 80% of my games against really bad players when I adjust open seat prereqs or when I join Elite's team games in real-time.

Just send me an invite.

Huhuhuhaha!

Can I join C League or Proving Ground A please? It looks like fun, and i would like to play with better players

The B League tournaments have been made:

1v1 Division 1: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3546
1v1 Division 2: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3547
2v2 Division 1: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3548
2v2 Division 2: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3549
3v3 Division 1: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3550
3v3 Division 2: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3551

The divisions are just to make less games for each person and the max amount of people for a round robin tournament is 20. I invited about 25-26 people to each tournament (about 50 players overall for B League) and hopefully I won't have to invite anybody else. Good luck to all the B Leaguers :)

I'll start working on the C League list now, but a couple might be needed to move up to B League so I won't make the tournaments for at least another few days.

Could I join the highest league available like 20C or PA (If that would be the correct terminology)

I think i could participate in C league, what type of players will be in that

I didn't manage to join the 1v1 B league? :O
ok, can i join the C than?