I claim it as being similiar to my train of thought. Thanks for posting I didnt know about that particular incident.

In my opinion ( I know little about a BUK system ), Ukraine probably mistook the plane for a possible bomber, cargo, or transport since it is similar in size. They hastily launched the missile at it, but are denying guilt either because of the propagandic Russian victory it'd be, or because of communication failures.

It just may be one of those things we never know what the truth is, though. Either because of the investigation results are 'indecisive', because the results are muffled by somebody, or because investigators may be biased.

"I didnt know about that particular incident." Broadly speaking that supports your point =D. I dont understand how and why some things become common knowlege and other seemingly more pertinent stuff gets ignored. People say it has to do with the media and propoganda but im sure there is more to it than only that. People know about the stanford prison experiment and MK ultra but not about the fact that russia won WW2 or pine gap.

The whole system of human information communication seems to based on stories. ray bradbury gave a speech about the hygiene of writing and the biggest insight from that speech for me was that all stories are metaphors. Id go so far as to say 'story' just means metaphor with a theme and a narrative. things like flight 655 dont fit a story, its not a clear metaphor for something in peoples minds so it falls by the wayside.

Here again i disagree. People know about things they get presented in the media.
Some of your stories have the green light to be told at 8:00 am primetime, some stories are better left untold by those in charge.

An american downed civilian airliner doesnt fit into the public image the US propaganda machine creates of itself. One suppossedly downed by pro-Russian forces does.
Its really not that complicated as you seem to present it. Propaganda is nothing new and has existed since people started to communicate with each other. Information is filtered to suit the needs of the ruling class.

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never mind

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Unrelated to all discussion so far, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned either.

But...I thought it was a very stupid move by the Malaysian Airlines to travel above a conflict zone. I know they should never expect to get hit, I would think the rebels made a mistake and confused it for a military plane. But still, I as a person would not travel over war zones. The alternative was quite simple. They could of just taken a detour around Ukraine, lowering the risk completely.

Save the dollars, I guess.

don't blame malaysian airlines for it. most airlines, if not all of them kept flying over ukrainian skies.. and i believe they still do..