I've always known it as a magazine.

I rest my case

Fuck off Piggy. Most people would say - Private Eye? Yeah great magazine. The same people would not call the Sun a paper - it's a tabloid.

tabloids are newspapers

Yes but they aren't on the same level. It's comparing calligraphy paper to loo-roll.

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theyre not on the same level as the thing that they are?

Tabloids and broadsheets and both forms newspapers, but because they report the news in a different style doesn't mean that 1 of them is a newspaper and another isn't.

haha we turned this into a discussion about newspapers. We have resolved our differences in private, turns out i was right all along. So we can go back to talking about fox news.

Foxes are cool. If I ever became a vigilante i would use the moniker of fox. Most urban areas of the Uk are packed with them but you never see them. They just destroy your bins every so often and then disappear again.

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Like a cute terracotta viet cong.

I see a fox literally every time I'm out after 8pm. they're pussy bitches and even scareder than cats, the animal from which the term scaredy-cat is derived.

Wild foxes are boisterous. One knocked on my patio and ignored me as I tried to shoo it away.

Fox, badger, same thing!

@Mulva:



Remember to keep in mind that only about 90% of Americans identify as Democrats or Republicans, so 45% is where the 50% line effectively is if we're talking Republicans vs. Democrats.
Additionally:



You can see that, with the exception of the tiny number of American post-grads, increased education correlates more strongly with a Republican vote. This chart is still true despite the fact that, for decades, far more Americans have registered as Democrats than Republicans.



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The bottom graph is what % of people lean left or right, which has nothing to do with intelligence. The middle graph suggests that the more educated a white voter is the less likely they vote right which is what mulva said. Also (totally irrelevent) the richer they are the more likely they are to vote right. The top one makes no comparison between left and right. It simply says that less people with either no HS diploma or a post grad degree vote right.

IDK what youre trying to prove but you havent done.

Also the richer they are the more likely they are to vote right.

Speaking of education...

The bottom graph is what % of people lean left or right, which has nothing to do with intelligence.

You obviously didn't read the comments that I put in the margins. The bottom graph supported my saying that more educated voters vote Republican despite a majority of voters in general identifying as Democrats.

The middle graph suggests that the more educated a white voter is the less likely they vote right which is what mulva said.

It seems pretty darned clear that, especially in the 2008 election, those with a High School through Bachelor's degree education vote right much more than those without (the tiny number of post-grads in America makes that statistic almost irrelevant.) Additionally, this graph shows the voting tendencies of only white Americans. It doesn't include the black demographic. I'm not at all being racist, but it is true that the average black person gets less education than the average white person, and is also vastly more likely to vote Democrat.

The top one makes no comparison between left and right.[i/]

The fact is, as I even explicitly stated, roughly 90% of American voters identify as either Democrats or Republicans, so the any graph of a Republican voting share implicitly includes the graph of a Democrat voting share, and vice-versa. That much is very clear.

Please read my assertions and take a moment to consider them, don't just respond with an ignorant and angry response.

Yeah I read it all, it didnt make me angry. I guess im just ignorant. I dont look at these graphs and see 'people who vote right are more educated'.

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Sorry, read that sentence out of context the first time.

The bottom graph was not irrelevant because it was a support for my margin comments. It is an additional support for primarily the second graph.

Just got back from a run, so I wasn't reading your comments so clearly. I wrote that 40-45% is the true middle for the first graph instead of the third graph, which was I meant to say. So basically I wasn't misreading the graphs, I was just tired :P

Oh, hello Mr "I'm a Republican". What's that you've got there for me? Charts with unattributed data? That definitely seems credible. And you selected these particular graphs to fit your pre-existing opinion? Yes, certainly, I'm going to think long and hard about those.

Remember to keep in mind that only about 90% of Americans identify as Democrats or Republicans, so 45% is where the 50% line effectively is if we're talking Republicans vs. Democrats.

But this measures vote share ... self-identification is irrelevant. & I'm not sure what the point of your third graph is at all.

the tiny number of post-grads in America makes that statistic almost irrelevant.

No, it's not any more or less irrelevant. I'm not going to explain to you why.

Just got back from a run, so I wasn't reading your comments so clearly.

nobody cares, you bastard. i had to spend valuable seconds of my life reading this pointless sentence. fuck. you've wasted everybody's time. identifying the relevance of things seems to be a big problem for you.

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*silence*