Why is he condemned the murder of the ambassadors to Libya a few years ago?
He did something that Iran, Syria and Russia is only Mdber.ohullach ?, golf vacation.
Is a weak president and utilize all his conciliatory attitude
That's what I think of me think otherwise ... what suits your eye is the powerful president?

Tell me about the American Presidents that have not been accused of utilizing assassination as a political tool ...

And does using assassination - if this is true make you weak? In tyrants they say this makes you strong - but for Obama it's a weakness?

"He did something that Iran, Syria and Russia is only Mdber.ohullach ?, golf vacation."

Again what? Are you saying that Iran, Syria and Russia do not assassinate? Or that playing Golf on holiday makes you weak?

Conciliatory it's a weakness to try to find a common ground? The Churchill, Stalin and Theodore Roosevelt are dammed as weak by the Yalta conference because they negotiated.

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Meanwhile he failed almost anything
Why do you think it helped peace?
  Is too forgiving, so each one does what he wants

Meanwhile he failed almost anything

I can't understand it - you mean failed almost nothing - or failed almost everything - either way you need to define what exactly was failed / not failed.

Why do you think it helped peace?[i/]

We're not talking about that. Helping peace is not proof of strength. For many it's proof of weakness so this counters your own point.

Is too forgiving, so each one does what he wants

You think America should punish the world according to it's own values? That would make Obama the tyrant you berate him for not abolishing.

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I think if there is no power on the normally, should at least help keep the balance.
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The balance of power? I haven't heard of that idea since the Congress of Vienna.

Old Skool FTW! lol

PS that led to WW1 ... which led to WW2 ... which led to the Cold War ...

you are arguing with 15 year olds ska :/

I mean you need to have pretty good power to balance the world.
  Cruel governments do not survive to give

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I was waiting for you Myhand ... :)

I'm playing devils advocate a bit ... but the U.S is not evil - misguided sometimes ... ay

But a generally well meaning people ... ay

I was hoping you'd come up with something that made me think more than ... well the news said U.S is bad and Obama is bad so U.S is bad and Obama is bad.

(Ps I genuinely believe that Obama got a bad hand and if he wants a legacy inside this century he needs to organize his own assassination) :(

- But I also think he is trying to make Americans more ... nice? nice towards the world and each other - and I've met American's on my travels who get him and others ... who complain how much money he costs them :(

Like healthcare for all is a tax he aimed at them cos he hated them personally :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6naJ08Tskk

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"he balance of power? I haven't heard of that idea since the Congress of Vienna.

Old Skool FTW! lol

PS that led to WW1 ... which led to WW2 ... which led to the Cold War ...
16 years old* And why How old are you?"

You need to read some books.

I have no problem with the United States, only me, Obama is weak and lenient ruler
Rise because of its weakness dangerous regimes

Obama is lenient.

Chop of their heads!

Let them eat Cake!

Vote Putin

...

*Sigh*

I do not understand what the hell do you want? You want the Russians begin their conquests? And everywhere a new universe terrorist organization?

You want Obama to be a tyrant to destroy Tyrants?

You're a confused boy who needs to read Socrates.

Also you clearly do not get sarcasm lol

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I can't say Obama was dealt a good hand, but he hasn't done much since he's been in office. The assissantion of Bin, a (in my opinion "shit") healthcare plan, which caters to the poor, and just places more pressure on the already struggling middle class, and he has pulled out troops from the Middle East (and the way things are looking they're going right back). Obama is inefficient, inexpierenced, (he does have natural talents, such as his charisma and youth, but he is very under qualified. He was a senator for what?, 2 years before he entered office. He isn't a strong enough politician to represent America.) and indecisive. (I won't mention the economy or job market because that is not a responsibility of the President or Government) To compare him to Kennedy, is a joke I think. Obama is half puppet to the democrats, while democrats were half puppet to the Kennedy's. Kennedy's were royalty, they served our country while it was a true hotbed, not the whining mess it is now. To say Obama was dealt a had hand is silly, because most Presidents are dealt hands because shit is always fucked up. It's just annoying when I see people offer Obama praise... Of course non-Americans would love him tho, he's like a bendy straw.

I want him to not let them reach the state they invade countries.
If he shows that he is not in Syria, for example, may Freier Russians had more recoil.

"To say Obama was dealt a had hand is silly, because most Presidents are dealt hands because shit is always fucked up"

I don't need to address this as you answer it quite eloquently yourself

"I can't say Obama was dealt a good hand"

"a (in my opinion "shit") healthcare plan, which caters to the poor, and just places more pressure on the already struggling middle class

Struggling middle class? You need to re-assess what middle class means.

"and he has pulled out troops from the Middle East"

Yes, he continued the Republican Bush administration plan for a withdrawal from Afghanistan. You don't mention though the troop surge which was a Democrat/Obama idea and which American generals and military pundits [ex-military now working the media pony] hyped as a huge success.

"He was a senator for what?, 2 years before he entered office."

14 of the US presidents had no previous experience as a US Senator or as a state governor. They are: George Washington (General of the Army of the United Colonies) John Adams (Vice President under Washington) James Madison (U.S. Congressman*, Secretary of State under Jefferson) Zachary Taylor US army general ) Millard Fillmore (U.S. Congressman, Vice President under Taylor) Abraham Lincoln (U.S. Congressman from Illinois*) Ulysses S. Grant (U.S. Army General) James Garfield (U.S. Congressman from Ohio) Chester Alan Arthur (Vice President under Garfield) William Howard Taft (U.S. Secretary of War, territorial governor of the Phillippines) Herbert Hoover (U.S. Secretary of Commerce) Dwight D. Eisenhower (U.S. Army Chief of Staff) Gerald Ford (U.S. Congressman, Vice President under Nixon) George H. W. Bush (U.S. Congressman, U.S. Ambassador to the UN, Director of CIA, Vice President under Reagan)

Lincoln, Grant, Adams and others maybe you don't need to be a career politician to represent your people? Or maybe Lincoln was just shit as well?

"I won't mention the economy or job market because that is not a responsibility of the President or Government"

Probably best that you don't seeing as America's recovery is widely held to be one of the best of the countries affected widely surpassing the Eurozone for growth.

"Kennedy's were royalty, they served our country while it was a true hotbed, not the whining mess it is now

Kennedy ... Lincoln both highly divisive politicians - Kennedy's majority was minute - but after his assassination his "vote share" (from polls) rocketed ... I mean really it's amazing look it up. But only after his death. For some reason dying in office makes hated American leaders into heroes.

It's just annoying when I see people offer Obama praise... Of course non-Americans would love him tho, he's like a bendy straw.

A bendy straw who is so bendy he has introduced universal healthcare vs the Republicans, a hostile Congress, (that is suing him!) The tea party. And kept America on the track to economic recovery, even though Republican's would rather score political points by not agreeing a budget ... I mean you're in one of the biggest economic crises since the Great Depression and the Democrats and Republicans cannot agree a budget ... you make Belgium's government look good sometimes.

But yeah despite all of this partisan politics it's all Obama's fault. He's commy after all :(

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It's funny you say that I do not listen to me ... even though you do not listen to anyone ...
Why is an American who did not know, and the dollar generally declined during the Obama

@elroi because you don't make any factual points:

http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/06/06/237458/rick-santorum-says-obama-has-devalued-our-currency/

^^ This link proves you are incorrect.

But nice to see you are trying better than I think / I heard :)

And feel free to address any of the points I raised anytime you want or I will just have to assume you agree with me :)

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What is certain is bad foreign policy ... at least it would be good in finance, from what I gather is not really changed anything.