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Fewer new threads, more improvements to old threads?: 2013-01-06 20:31:26


skunk940 
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I think some of you lot are scared to try new map types. Bigger bonuses are not wrong there just new.
Fewer new threads, more improvements to old threads?: 2013-01-06 20:43:39


Moros 
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We're not talking about the bonuses, but about the links! You know, those cute little boxes with shiny colours and numbers in them?
Fewer new threads, more improvements to old threads?: 2013-01-06 22:00:23

RvW 
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Moros wrote:
Okay, if you now don't respond to all statements in this post, you have lost all of my respect and I'll rate all your maps 1 and blacklist you.

Shame on you Moros. I'm not objecting to you rating his maps one star (if that is your honest opinion of their quality, which it very well might be), but I do have an issue with any statement of the form "do what I want or else".



skunk940 wrote:
It’s a players responsibility to notify the map creator if they find a error in a map. If not nothing will ever get fixed on anything. Its simple logic you know.

What are your though about this reasoning: "It's the police's responsibility to notify drivers if they find any errors with their driving. If not, nobody will ever become a better driver. It's simple logic you know." The way I see it, it's a map maker's responsibility to have very few actual errors in their maps when they get published.

Very many maps are based on the (rather messy) real world. Sometimes you need to sacrifice accuracy for playability or convention (Greenland part of Denmark / Falklands part of United Kingdom) or practical considerations (Luxembourg being the same size as Belgium and the Netherlands). I think everyone here understands that these are not actually errors, but merely suggestions for improvement and there's a point to be made for keeping them as-is. But some things mentioned are actually, with no room for debate, wrong (such as spelling mistakes or (some kinds of) missing connections).

If you publish a map (with a few minor mistakes, we're all human) then I think it's fair to expect people to use the "Map Feedback" button to let you know about those mistakes instead of yelling at you in the forum. But if they say nothing at all (maybe because they missed it; after all, you missed it as well!), you can't blame them for that.

Also, I think someone needs to explain something important to you. If you get no feedback at all, that can mean two things: the map is flawless..., or it's such a hopeless mess, nobody wants to bother giving feedback, because they don't know where to start. Since I doubt any map will be absolutely perfect the first time it gets published, receiving no feedback at all is a very bad sign. (You never explicitly stated not having received feedback. But since you make such a huge point of having to get notified and the remaining errors in your maps, I think you're implying not having received feedback.)

skunk940 wrote:
One thing that you understand is that no one starts great. You learn as you go along.

One of the (most important?) ways to learn and get better is to listen to feedback. You don't appear very willing to do that.

Yes, feedback can occasionally be wrong and "just because everyone says so" does not always mean "they are right". But if so many people give a particular piece of feedback, such as overlapping borders, the very least you should do is explain why you refuse to make that chance. That way you can at least have a discussion about it; by simply ignoring it you make that impossible.

Regarding the map "Republic of Macedonia", is that really Incaman's very first map? Wow...!!
Fewer new threads, more improvements to old threads?: 2013-01-07 09:01:48


skunk940 
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I agree with you RvW but i do listen to feedback whever it be in the thouroms, email or feedback feature on the map page itself.
Fewer new threads, more improvements to old threads?: 2013-01-07 20:47:35


Moros 
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but i do listen to feedback

No you don't, because you haven't fixed or even replied to my list of the 26 most obvious problems of your latest map.
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