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No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 03:31:52


bdh1998
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So Im getting confused with the new rule for the XVI ladder. I thought that if you had X armies on a space, you couldn't say move Y armies to some space and Z armies from the same space to another? In my first game that didnt seem to be the case. Can anyone pick my problem apart and help explain?

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6795564

Edit: Now I am thinking this is a) a glitch or b) a ladder problem

Edited 8/12/2014 03:40:31
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 03:49:14


ChristophU
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So your slider is also appearing? Have you successfully used it, or is it just there when it should not be, but not actually able to be properly used?
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 03:55:29


bdh1998
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No my slider appeared, and I actually used it properly, by splitting troops in eastern Africa. I also have contacted Fizzer about it.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:01:23

Fizzer 
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Oops! Sorry about that -- it should be fixed now.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:05:54


bdh1998
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Cool, I confirm that it is fixed. However, are you going to reset the ladder? some games have finished with no-split on.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:15:25


ChristophU
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I don't think the ladder should be reset, those games were played in good faith, and anything played in good faith should count, but players who did not know that no-split was not working may have been at a disadvantage, but it was not broken for long. I could go either way on it, but I don't think it should be reset at the moment.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:34:14

Ruthless Bastard 
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It should be reset. What are people who made early illegal moves suppose to do? Continue like nothing happened and win games illegally or be honorable and surrender not even giving them a chance to win.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:35:59

Good Kid 
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Depends if anyone actually made the illegal moves. In the first three games to be finished it seems no one did.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:39:03


CONQUISTADORS 
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I'd like a reset. I have a game that is questionable, but I cannot tell for sure since the game has not finished yet.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:41:00

Good Kid 
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@Conq 2 of the 3 games finished so far are Bort losing. He followed the rules in both games, doubt he did otherwise vs. you.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:42:51

Ruthless Bastard 
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there are countless games that have not ended where people may have made an illegal move to gain an edge. Do we wait for the 1st game where someone exploited the bug or do we just reset now?
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:46:02

Good Kid 
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I'm not opposed to a reset, just not sure it's necessary, doesn't seem that many games actually had turns taken before the fix.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:50:28


CONQUISTADORS 
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@Good Kid, Bort v Botinator turn 1 from Thailand, is that not splitting troops?
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 04:56:43

Good Kid 
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Whoops, somehow missed that. Though, I seriously doubt Bort beats you whether he cheats or not, he's terrible :P

He did it in West US later on too.

Edited 8/12/2014 04:57:52
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 05:06:20

Ruthless Bastard 
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what if he does lose because of it? what if 1 single person loses because of bug exploiting? only a few hrs into the ladder a reset seems like the way to go.

Edited 8/12/2014 05:07:00
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 05:10:53

Good Kid 
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If 1 person loses because of it, I'd happily vote for a reset, or a redo of that specific game.

There's also the scenario though of someone winning a game that doesn't involve cheating, and then losing the equivalent game after a reset.

Can swing both ways, which perhaps makes it better to only revert games where the winner cheated.

It's unlikely that even 20 games started yet when the change was made to fix the bug.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 05:23:19

Ruthless Bastard 
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If you lose the equivalent game, you could just say you were going to lose the next game. A win taken away is nothing. If i was 10-0 id rather lose that and start over than start 0-1
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 06:39:47


Darkpie 
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In the 3 games that were finished before it was fixed both players noticed it and used split-orders except for Legacy vs Amerlafrance where Legacy followed the rules and won.


I don't think it's necessary to reset, but I wouldn't mind if it were done.

Edited 8/12/2014 06:41:36
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 07:08:38


master of desaster 
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Split is still enabled.
No-Split mode: 2014-08-12 07:16:17


Darkpie 
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^^ If that's the case I think a restart would be good

Edited 8/12/2014 07:23:36
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