good god, who gives a fuck.

+1
these were supposed to be fun threads
gui, if you think you're better than sze then do games against him and prove it
sze, you're rank 1 in the ladder, everyone knows you're both good, shut up
myhand... well, you're a good boy *pats on head*

Warflow, you created this same thread. Nobody bit. There is provocative discussion here and you say "it's not meant to be provocative, it's only meant to be utterly meaningless fun." If that is what you want, invite yuri to a game and engage in utterly meaningless chat with him. Or just follow him around and talk with him on the forum.

Sze made a list. I will too. Players I think are better than Sze in overall ability across game modes, maps and settings:

Saladin: better at more maps, overall about equal at classic games, doesn't need to talk so much in team chat bc he anticipates better and understands others better.

Fatih: better at 1v1s, better at more maps, not as good at team games but close. The clincher: Fatih is one of the best 5 on wl at FFAs and Sze doesn't play FFAs, which require a flexibility and patience I wouldn't consider Sze's strengths.

Myhand: The clincher: myhand knows how to play FFAs better and is better at more maps.

Dreuj: Sze is better at classic games (3v3 ENC & 1v1 ME). Dreuj is better at more maps and FFAs.

Me: 3v3/2v2 ENC: me. FFAs: me. More maps: me. Multiattack: me. 1v1 ME: not much difference, even though I won 60% (with these games there comes a point when it feels more like playing paper scissors stone than anything truly strategic, so I have stopped caring about my wins or losses in these games). What are you better at? Obsessive calculations. You playas if the game is ttheory. I treat it as art. You calculate. I paint.

HHH: maybe, since he plays more maps and is probably better at FFAs.

Dunga: If he knew how to play ENC team games.

Unknown: maybe, since he is more consistent across maps, modes and settings, even if Sze is better at Europe team games.

"piggy: That's some nerve you have!"

"Implying you might be best and not saying it directly is like a back-handed compliment to others or a slap in the face."
the 9th post

"Prove it!"
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3622930

See Gui, you can post with sense if you want to...

I'll admit I never played ffa's since they require a completely different set of skills which I was not able to measure in any kind of objective sense. If you are right and there is an overall skill to ffa's then you are right, I definitely have no experience in that area (I was actually unaware that there was a competetive scenes of ffa's). If that is the case I'll agree with you and fatih as better overall players on that account, thought I am looking forward to a time when you come back to competetive 2vs2/3vs3 scene. I never said I was better than myhand and I agree with what you wrote completely.

*agree with what you wrote completely about myhand that is

sze and gui

I suspect that only about 20-30 people on here are actually qualified to make the judgement on who is better, and I am not one of them.

Interesting debate though.

Billy walsh is one of them.

lol red, you're so wrong
billy walsh isn't just ONE of them
he is THE one, THE single most qualified player to judge
LONG LIVE BILLY WALSH

I say you two just meet up, whip em out and measure. Would finally put this petty bullshit to rest.

I agree with Sharpe. This can only be decided by the diameter of the screens on your phones.

diameter?
i think the area would be more accurate
or the perimeter (not sure how to spell that in english)

also, the length of your nose hair is also a great indicator

also, the amount of times you misuse also in the same sentence is also a great indicator >.<

petty
1 having secondary rank or importance : minor, subordinate
2 having little or no importance or significance
3 marked by or reflective of narrow interests and sympathies

Example of being petty: I say you two just meet up, whip em out and measure.

There are always FFA tournaments going on. Before I came to wl I played maybe 2000 5-player Risk FFAs at pogo.

The greatest ladder Fizzled or CLOT could ever make:

1 Find a great map/settings for FFAs
2 No private chat
3 All players remain anonymous until the game ends (so people don't chat in other games, so alliances unrelated to each specific game's strategy don't form andrruin the game, so nobody will know who I am, and so all diplomatic discussion ttakes place in the public chat for all to see)
4 No restrictions on which players join which games (so each game is unique and includes all levels of skill and strategies, forcing players to adjust to what they see rather than playing fixed styles again and again like on the non-seasonal ladders)

A ladder like this would be so enjoyable.

Do you have specific settings for 5-player ffa-s you'd recommend?

Huck when will the player then be revealed or unmasked.