A bit more than a month since the last one, the last one hadcategorieswhich were rather ambiguous and hard to classify. I decided to come up with ratings instead. They took 3 seconds and involved no calculation, and are more to illustrate my perceived level of difference between every clan.

I took into account ladder stats and games, WGLs and stuff since last time, and also some comments. Credits to Wakanarai for teaching me the thread formatting.

Clan       Score 

20          1.00 
Apex        0.93
WM          0.92
GG          0.90
WG          0.89
Lynx        0.81
AHOL        0.79
Master      0.72
XS          0.70
ID          0.69
Blitz       0.65
VIW         0.63
XCD         0.61
French      0.61
W-Lighter   0.60
101st       0.52
BR          0.51
G Spot      0.51
REGL        0.50
Gladiator   0.50
Turtle      0.48
S Ninja     0.45
Swirve      0.35 
Ohms        0.30

Edited 8/20/2014 16:38:49

Top tier attracts most interest and debate, here are my reasons. 20 remains best clan with best average player. Apex leads clan league and takes in one or two new members. WM dominates RT ladder. GG wins Seasonal. WG has few recent ladder achievements except Summer leading 2v2 ladder and also is 2nd on clan league. Lynx got a #1 and has taken in some new good recruits. AHOL also goes up after a string of #1s.

Yeah, WG hasn't been super active on 1v1 ladder. But Tenshi has been rolling in Seasonal ladders lately. How are you factoring in the last clan league?

Also, I think you should factor in the WSOW as well:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Arn0ahIN9qcsdFVFVVoyajlud3BoNkJoUWZfR3RFMkE&outpu

Edited 8/20/2014 17:46:44

not a bad list

Ohms should at least have 0.31

I don't understand your tier's (AHol is closer to Lynx in score than Master). If they are simply based on scores, it should be like this:

Clan       Score 

20          1.00
 
Apex        0.93
WM          0.92
GG          0.90
WG          0.89

Lynx        0.81
AHOL        0.79

Master      0.72
XS          0.70
ID          0.69

Blitz       0.65
VIW         0.63
XCD         0.61
French      0.61
W-Lighter   0.60

101st       0.52
BR          0.51
G Spot      0.51
REGL        0.50
Gladiator   0.50
Turtle      0.48
S Ninja     0.45

Swirve      0.35 
Ohms        0.30

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Edited 8/21/2014 12:17:48

Y'all missed a lot of clans. Just doing a certain number or only certain clans?

Now the true list (no rating numbers, just tiers):

Tier 1:
1. 20

Tier 2:
2. Apex
3. WM
4. WG

Tier 3:
5. GG
6. Lynx

Tier 4:
7. Master
8. AHOL

Tier 5:
9. French
10. ID
11. Blitz
12. VIW
13. Warlighters
14. XS
15. BIA
16. XCD

Tier 6:
17. 101st
18. G Spot
19. Gladiators
20. REGL
21. Turtles
22. BR
23. Sninja

24. Swirve
25. Ohms

20 is still the best. All 8 in the clan are arguably 8 of the best 20, which makes it easy for them to secure #1. Apex/WM/WG are still very close, but with the addition of Timinator, Apex has pulled ahead of the other two. WG does well in the clan competitions typically but lacks the amount of great all around players that Apex and WM have. GG can't compete with the top 4. Check out the clan league. GG is far behind Apex and WG, and even behind WM without Gnuffone. Also, GG has a lack of great players. Lynx falls slightly behind GG right now. Both clans are relatively equal on 1v1 I believe, but GG>Lynx at team games currently. Master is a clan that is on the rise, but not yet at the level of the Tier 3 clans. AHOL has had 2 #1's lately, but one stalled, and the other dropped down to a much lower rating soon after, so I can't put them in front of Master. The biggest thing for both of these clans is that GG would dominate both of them in team games, and Lynx is better at team games as well. After Tier 4, the overall skill level drops down tremendously. Tier 5 clans (ranks 9-16 are tough to differentiate between). Same with Tier 6. Tier 7, i have no idea about either clan, just wanted to get 25 clans :)

i think ppl forget GG plays the clan league with as much ppl as possible at this point 4-5 ppl more then some other clans. if they only play with their best 6-7 players they would have had more points and i think they would be above WM. also i think the best 6 of GG are better then then top 6 of lynx, in 1v1 and team games too ( dont wanna challenge lynx lol). But i noone of GG ever said anything about this so i thought i will give my thought. i think Apex WG and 20 are the top 3 clans at this moment with all great players in it although WG has some weaker players then 20 and Apex. so my list would be

1,2 :apex, 20

3: WG
4: GG
5: WM
6: lynx/Ahol/Master

I think that is a very valid point. WG does the same (we use everybody that wants to play). Andersault and Gnull are semi retired and elected not to play, and Nich was not in our clan at the time. Here is the GG breakdown:

4 - FlyingBender
3 - Julkorn
2 - Michael, Braak
1 - MG, Ctrl Alt Delete, orinocoflows, DUT©H DESI®E, JV, The GasLamp Killer, Ottarinn


Here is ours (Verzehrer's first clan league with us):

3 - Summer, marc, Ineffable, Mirror, Tenshi
2 - Chris
1 - Verzehrer

You obviously go deeper than us, but you have more members to use (we used all ours). And nobody is playing max games for us either.



Looking at other clans in A...

Frank and grona play 4 games for apex. Miyagi plays 4 for Master. Good Kid, Darkpie, 76myth play 4 for 101st.

All the rest are pretty spread out. So really only apex and 101st top loaded their teams. Apex probably had to (they have some semi retired people as well and are not a big clan.

Edited 8/20/2014 23:44:56

Tier 7:

LEA - Killing the clan page without even trying
MaxTroll - Still sucking it :p
Vitrix - Nice improvement
VIW - Always near the top, good job fellows

You no know nothing! Gui give me account book. Here is what say.

Clan Average (top 8 players)

20

Odin 1v1 = 8, 2v2 = 8, 3v3 = 7, Average = 7.67
Sze 9, 7.5, 8.5, Average = 8.33
GS 6.5, 7.5, 7, Average = 7
Otto 8, 8, 7.5, Average = 7.67
Ribe 6.5, 7.5, 8, Average = 7.33
Psy 6.5, 7.5, 7, Average = 7
myhand 8.5, 8, 8.5, Average = 8.33

Clan Average = 52.84/8 = 6.61 (7.50 with Fridge)

Apex

Timi 9, 8.5, 7.5, Average = 8.33
dead 7.5, 7.5, 7.5, Average = 7.5
widi 7, 7, 6, Average = 6.67
Frank 7, 7.5, 7, Average = 7.17
grona 7.5, 7, 7, Average = 7.17
brisk 8.5, 8, 7, Average = 7.83
luxis 8, 8, 7, Average = 7.67
lol 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, Average = 5.5

Clan Average = 57.84/8 = 7.23 (8.23 if replace lol and play all games Medium Earth)

WM

pot 7.5, 7.5, 7, Average = 7.33
Arlec 7.5, 7.5, 6, Average = 7
balls 7, 7, 6, Average = 6.67
Latnox 7.5, 7.5, 6, Average = 7
Falk 7, 7, 7, Average = 7
Gnuf 8, 8, 8.5, Average = 8.17
Marquis 9, 9, 9, Average = 9
Fridge 6.5, 7.5, 7.5, Average = 7.17

Clan Average = 59.17/8 = 7.40

WG

Sum 8, 8, 7, Average = 7.67
Tenshi 6, 5.5, 5.5, Average = 5.67
nich 7.5, 7, 6, Average = 6.83
Mirror 7, 7.5, 6, Average = 6.83
Chris 5.5, 5.5, 5.5, Average = 5.5
marc 7, 6.5, 6, Average = 6.5
ineff 7, 7, 6.5, Average = 6.67
Verz 7, 6.5, 5.5, Average = 6.33

Clan Average = 52/8 = 6.5 (7.5 if all games Medium Earth and replace chris)

Gui's Top 4 Clans

1. WM 7.40
2. Apex 7.23
3. 20 6.61
4. WG 6.5

Edited 8/21/2014 04:31:53

That proves you know nothing about me. Rating my 1v1 skill the same as my team play is plain stupid. I am probably the worst solo player on this list (as you correctly rated me) but i consider myself a better team player than a decent amount of these people.

Edited 8/21/2014 03:22:46

Chris, its a joke. Look at Marquis' ratings compared to Gnuffone's.

You really good? Gui's book say u stink like rot fish..

Gnuf = Clark Kent. Marquis = super Gnuf. No joke.

Don't hate message. Look on mirror.

Edited 8/21/2014 03:59:25

and 20's average lower than lowest of players ;p

Average = best 8. 20 only 7. You play WM on clan legue. If u no not see obvious u be better. 加油

Edited 8/21/2014 04:46:57

F Comm. and Warlighters being ranked below clans they are beating solidly in clan league

lol

I like the rating system.. I may not be in position to rate the players, but in my opinion:

1v1  2v2  3v3  all
___________________________________________

61   62.5 63.5 195 	[20] 
7.63 7.81 7.94 8.125

8    8    7    7.67	Odin		
6.5  7.5  8    7.33 	Fridge		
8    8    7.5  7.83 	Fatih		
9    7.5  9    8.5 	szeweningen	
6.5  7.5  8    7.33 	Ribena		
6.5  7.5  7.5  7.17 	☨ SaucyPsy	
7.5  8.5  8    8 	Gangnam Style	
9    8    8.5  8.5 	myhandisonfire	
___________________________________________

58.5 58.5 59.5 176.5      [WM]
7.31 7.31 7.44 7.354

7    7    7    7 	Potato 		
7.5  7    7    7.17 	Arlecchino 	
7.5  7.5  6.5  7.17 	his balls. 	
7.5  7.5  7.5  7.5 	Latnox 	
7.5  7    7    7.17 	[WM] Old Surehand 	
7    7    7.5  7.17 	Falker 	
8    8    9    8.33 	[WM] Gnuffone 
6.5  7.5  8    7.33 	Fridge	
___________________________________________

63.5 57.5 54.5 175.5    Apex
7.94 7.19 6.81 7.313

9    8    8    8.33 	Timinator 	
9    7.5  7.5  8 	dead piggy 	
7.5  7    6    6.83 	Widzisz • apex 
7    7.5  7.5  7.33 	Frankdeslimste • apex 	
8.5  7    6.5  7.33 	grona • apex 	
6    5.5  5.5  5.67 	Lolowut • apex 	
8    7.5  7    7.5 	brisk • apex 	
8.5  7.5  6.5  7.5 	Luxis • apex 	
___________________________________________

57.5 55.5 52.5 165.5    WG
7.19 6.94 6.56 6.896

8.5  8.5  6.5  7.83 	Summer 	
7.5  6.5  6    6.5 	Tenshi 	
7.5  7    6    6.83 	nich 	
7    7    6    6.67 	Mirror 	
6    6.5  6.5  6.33 	ChrisCMU 	
7    6.5  7    6.83 	marc2013 	
7    7    7    7 	Ineffable 	
7    6.5  6.5  6.33 	Verzehrer 	

Fridge's Top 4 Clans based on individual ratings of their top8 players:

1. [20] 8.125
2. [WM] 7.354
3. Apex 7.313
4. [WG] 6.896

To be honest, I'm very surprised i rate WG's players so low, while at the same time i feel WG is much much closer to the other 3 clans and not necessarily 4th. I think i underestimate individual players from WG because we rarely play games together.