that game starts to be fun! ^^ unluckily i won't be able to be part of it much longer :P kill MMB and no balls. silver is alright. what he says makes sense. he sounds arrogant sometimes, but killing nobody as you suggested myhand is bad too. if the villagers lynch someone, they got a small Chance to pick a wulf. the wolves kill anyway someone in the night, so they are always in the Advantage the less People get killed by voting. if we could kill all but 1 Person right now i would do it. villager would win most probably.

Im skaking as f*ck

@silver At least you calmed down and started to reason again.

I voted mmb just because i saw the reason of not jumping on the bandwagon of lynching some random guy out of the blue, who happened to be MoD. Me voting for hisballs wouldnt have given any chance of him getting killed, because it would have just further split the votes.
I agreed on mysteryman because you made a plea for him to be killed, one i could see at least some information coming out from.
If you made such a strong case against someone you are not convinced to be a wolf and dont want to face the consequences in case of you being wrong, just makes it even more likely for me that you are a wolf.

Edited 8/26/2014 17:49:09

Arun doesn't actually believe its me by the way. He is just posturing.

If you made such a strong case against someone you are not convinced to be a wolf and dont want to face the consequences in case of you being wrong, just makes it even more likely for me that you are a wolf.

If I was a wolf I'd never bring this sort of attention on myself.
And of course I don't want to die only because I was wrong, this game is far more fun than anything else in WL right now. For me at least.

I have played a similar type of this game in the past. Is it too late to enter?

..... ah hah!

@MoD yeah i was thinking the same.
I was trying to plead for everybody voting himself. The angel would save himself, the muse would save himself, villagers would win. So much for theory.
In reality the wolves could delay their votes, spliting them properly and making the village lose.

Last game the village to wolf ratio is 4:1 now I think its 5:1

Blimey, just got back in from work! Been following this (sort of) at work today - it's been manic!

There will be a vote update, (and a shocking twist :o) later this evening!


Sneak preview - I'd already pre-decided to add a player late! A couple of requests have been handed my way since, and I intend to use them to create a few curveballs ;)

Actually, thinking about it, I'll need to reveal now to give them a chance to vote, and you all a chance to attack them!

Phulesdorp had his role pre-drawn for him, and since Gnuffone & Hermes have asked since then, I will make exceptions at let them join. For those concerned about the balance of the game, during sign-ups I actually pre-planned how many roles I'd have with specific numbers, so it won't upset the balance at all.

Okay lets cut it down:

Doublelynching makes no sense at all, since we have a seer.

And we want that seer to gather as much information as he can. For doing that he needs time. Losing one villager per night is bad as it is, but increasing the risk of losing additional villagers if we dont have to, is utterly stupid.

So if I advocate you, Silver (and hisballs for the same reason) to be lynched, I do that because of a logical conclusion. Your own claim of making us believe how smart you are gives me no choice as to assume that you are aware of what i just said before. If you are really that smart you would know that we need to give the seer time. So if I wrongfully accuse you of being a villager and getting lynched, it comes down to your own hybris of not being as smart as you claimed to be.

So for the moment only hisballs and Silver give me logical evidence on supporting my claim of them being wolves.
Evidence on the others is too thin to justify any course of action for the time being.

Edited 8/26/2014 18:04:49

Hold on a second, myhand.
If we're both wolves, why would we target each other?
In this specific case if I'm a wolf as you claim that I am, why the hell would I target a fellow wolf?

A couple of reasons.

Your conclusion that it makes no sense is a fallacy.
You could accuse each other and in the case of one dying and being revealed a wolf it would appear to the village that the other one is a villager.

I was joking before...

Bullshit. Please seer him this night.

Myhand you're really really shady...

Okay, to put an end to this silly argument.

I ask myself to be seered tonight.
Dom can you perhaps put that up somewhere that the seers can see this?
If there's more than one seer, please all of you seer me and only me, just to avoid confusion in the night report.
A lot will be revealed, trust me and a lot will start to make sense.

i just joined this game.
I vote Mysteryman.

I am not shady, I am making sense. Maybe you are just not able to see the logic in it. I still believe this to be a possibility. If you turn out to be a villager, I promise you I will really slap you around for your ignorance.

If you would be a villager and open minded, you could still admit to see the logic in it now, since I explained it to you. Do I need to bring sze here to give you a mathematical quotation that proves my point or can you see it on your own?

So I give you a chance to rethink what you said and comment on why the logic of mine is supposed to be flawed. If all you will bring up is "this is shady" then i will not be convinced.

Edited 8/26/2014 18:16:51

No, I'm done dealing with a wolf like you.

I want to be seered to end this.

Edited 8/26/2014 18:18:33

I have been allowed in. Thanks Dom!

The Wolves here have the advantage. They know who the villains and the good people are. From reading the previous posts I have found out that they have their own form of private communication. This means they will be much more organized. They can choose to all cast their votes towards someone, either to kill someone or save themselves.

There are about 22 players player. From my experience there are usually about 3 to 5 villains. This means you have a 23% chance of killing a wolf and a 77% chance of killing a villager. If you try to kill two at a same time, the probability that you will kill two villagers is greater than killing one villager, one wolf.

The less villagers left, the more the wolves can use their advantage of numbers. 5 votes towards anyone can completely sway the votes. It is soon possible that players become aware who the wolves are but are unable to form any action as the wolves form a coalition and veto any kills towards them

Do not try multi-ikilling, not unless you are absolutely sure. The more people remaining, the more time you get to guess who is a villain and who is not.

Edited 8/26/2014 18:23:02