I'm he strategic community tends to feel that SE (1W or AD) is luck. While I feel that skill comes into play much more than people think, the point is that ORDINARY PEOPLE LOVE SE! No template has ever drawn more overall popularity than SE, and it should remain a template. As Fizzer himself (bow here) says that clan wars are for everyone.

The* is first word

I think we should just wait 2-3 weeks, then run actual numbers on Clan Wars participation by time slot to see if so-called "cancer templates" might be depressing participation. But from a cursory glance at the last 50 created games (ending in 26203512), it looks like so-called "cancer templates" might actually be popular, especially among RT casual players.

Combined, the non-cancer templates (SEAD, SE1W, Strategic 1v1, Strategic 2v2, SE COMBOMB) account for 21 of the past 31 QM games. Meanwhile, Auto-Imp.Rom. - LD & Light fog has the second most games of any template, and in the non-QM scene we see all sorts of "cancer templates" (weird RoR, IR, Scrabble setups mainly) dominate.

Hopefully we'll have a stronger conclusion from looking at actual Clan Wars data in a few weeks, but for now I can't really find anything that supports Nauz's hypothesis. Players love cancer?

QM templates

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Small Earth 1v1 Auto Dist: 7 (26203508, 26203502, 26203474, 26203473, 26203472, 26203468, 26203465)
Auto-Imp.Rom.- LD & Light fog: 5 (26203510, 26203500, 26203482, 26203476, 26203469)
Small Earth 1 wasteland: 5 (26203504, 26203489, 26203471, 26203464, 26203461)
Small Earth Commander and Bomb Card: 4 (26203507, 26203481, 26203467, 26203460)
Strategic 1v1: 4 (26203509, 26203484, 26203466, 26203462)
MME Commanders LD No Cards: 2 (26203511, 26203486)
Rise of Rome 1v1: 2 (26203475, 26203470)
Multi-Attack MME Light Fog LD: 1 (26203512)
Red Dead Redemption: 1 (26203479)
Strategic 2v2: 1 (26203499)

Custom templates

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unnamed templates on Rise of Rome: 5 (26203503, 26203501, 26203498, 26203497, 26203493)
lotto templates on Duel: 4 (26203494, 26203492, 26203488, 26203483)
unnamed template(s) on Scrabble: 3 (26203491, 26203478, 26203477)
Antarctica 1v1 on Antarctica Small: 1 (26203487)
celticfringe's Europe 2v2 on Europe: 1 (26203505)
Gotham City 1v1 (V.1.5) on Gotham City: 1 (26203496)
ffa cities on Imperium Romanum: 1 (26203506)
unnamed template(s) on Imperium Romanum: 1 (26203490)
small earth ffa3 on Small Earth: 1 (26203495)

I dare to say, if there are players that don't know how to surrender, then there are also players that dont know how to uncheck templates in QMs.

Thus, the QMs probably shouldnt be the basement to evaluate template favourits.
(have in mind that the "cancer" templates are fixed templates and nothing to vote for)

Edited 3/18/2021 20:07:09

Since the participation seems sufficiently high, I believe a few more timeslots would do nice. Every 6 hours only can be pretty awkward for people with 9 to 5 jobs. Even if someone is a hardcore player who dedicates 4 hours to WarLight in the evening, there maybe might not be a timeslot open then.

Also 1 minute autoboot isn't so nice IMO.

Edited 3/18/2021 20:07:02

There are lottos?!?

Also 1 minute autoboot isn't so nice IMO.

I hope it always has at least 1 template with a low boot time and a small map. I'm sure there are many who even if we spend an hour or two playing WZ on a given day, we can't spend 1-2 hrs continuously, and thus other templates just aren't possible for them.

IMO it's bad style when players keep pressing the "skip to end button" and 1 minute boot times pretty much forces that.

Edited 3/18/2021 21:20:50

Having double the amount of timeslots would really help.

So far, I missed all 4 slot from today cause i was sleeping, traveling, working or eating. And the same thing will probably happen again tomorrow....

I agree with krinid, I like myself some Small earth 1 minute and I think lots of casual players also don't have much patience for their opponent to take 3 minutes analyzing the board
(I mean it has been on QM like that forever)

Edited 3/18/2021 21:38:12

For real when I started my vacation clan wars was not a thing. I'm still on that original vacation and haven't played a game because I'm on vacation.

Wait a little for things to settle before jumping to conclusions.

3 minute small earth is better. It sucks to lose a game because you couldn't physically enter your moves fast enough.

The dilemma is this:

1) As Phobos said, some people may lose a game because they need more than 1 min to input their moves.

2) There are people who will also lose a game because they only have 15-20 mins but played a 3 min timer game, and their opponent actually takes 3 mins each turn, and now the game is at 25 mins and they really have to go.

So just have templates that meet both criteria. There should be room for both types of players in CW. So if you're the type of person who doesn't do well on quick/small templates b/c 1 min isn't enough, don't queue for that template.

CW is meant to complement CL which is long, deep, strategic MD games, by providing shorter RT games focused on more casual players.

This thread is nonsense. Participation in that timeslot is actually up.

Day 1, when there were 3 template options, 15 people queued.
Day 2, when there was just this one template option, 23 people queued.

Very true indeed

Edited 3/19/2021 08:21:56

Day 1, for the same time slot, 14 players queued on SE1W and 1 on MME Commanders LD No Cards (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=3)
Day 2, for the same time slot, 23 players queued on Multi-Attack MME Light Fog LD (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=7)
Day 3, for the same time slot, 23 players queued on SEAD (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=11)
Day 4, for the same time slot, 8 players queued on MME Commanders LD No Cards and 14 on SE COMBOMB (https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=1&Timeslot=15)

Seems from preliminary data that MME Commanders LD No Cards is unpopular. But again we should wait 2-3 weeks at least.

Edited 3/19/2021 18:00:46