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Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-14 22:40:56

Heihei
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I think most are missing the point here. It hardly matters who started what and on the surface Fizzer's actions have been reactionary... i.e. Filing the trademark AFTER Activision filed to trademark "Warzone". That was the clear and correct reaction. Not sure why everyone is hating on Fizzer for trying to get a few pennies from a multi-billion dollar corporation either. That too is the clear and correct reaction. Generating public support is the big thing here and I would not be surprised if some big gun lawyers jump in on the chance to
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-14 22:42:43

Heihei
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get some Activision loot boxes on Fizzer's behalf.

On a side note if you win this Fizzer how about granting lifetime membership to those who donated to your legal defense... *cough cough*
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 01:15:36

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"Warzone.com’s initial assertion for blocking Activision’s trademark was that the name caused significant confusion between Activision’s Call of Duty game and the Warzone strategy game. However, Activision claims in its complaint that the games are so different that confusion seems unlikely, or even impossible."

I can attest that I fell into this exact confusion last year. A friend messaged me asking if I played warzone, and I replied, "yes, I do." of course I thought he was talking out warzone.com, and didn't know Call of Duty: Warzone existed. I figured out the confusion about 3 weeks later haha.

This warzone is much better than the xbox version!
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 02:19:32

Fizzer 
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I can attest that I fell into this exact confusion last year. A friend messaged me asking if I played warzone, and I replied, "yes, I do." of course I thought he was talking out warzone.com, and didn't know Call of Duty: Warzone existed. I figured out the confusion about 3 weeks later haha.


Activision's lawsuit hinges on their statement: "it is inconceivable that any member of the public could confuse the two products"

Edited 4/15/2021 02:20:14
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 02:36:24


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Activision's lawsuit hinges on their statement: "it is inconceivable that any member of the public could confuse the two products"

Hence Vizzini.
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 02:40:52


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add a feature where we can see the downvoted comments from the mobile app
- downvoted post by Hero
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 03:25:28


Splat 
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I just found out that Biopilot17 also made a video about this case: https://youtu.be/P0GKsgQcxBs

He started by explaining what this Warzone is, then goes over your/Fizzer's case in the gofundme. As part of him explaining your case, he showed off the list of streams using your category, and it was all COD streams on the list, and somehow a Fortnite stream was on the list at that time as well.
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 03:45:27

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Should have just stayed Warlight...
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 04:30:36


The Forbidden Koala 
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Time to change the title to "Warzone - Better than Call of Duty knockoff - Play Online Free"
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 05:18:50

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I can also personally attest to confusion between the two games. I was doing research into making maps and what kind of maps already exist. Simply typing "warzone" into google gets primarily CoD based results, so I have to do advanced searches that only pull from the warzone.com domain.

If you go on user voice, there's a bunch of people asking for various changes to "the guns."

One day my girlfriend was talking to a coworker and it came up that her boyfriend streams on twitch. After being asked what games, she told my girlfriend, "just the regular stuff: fortnight, warzone..."
Surprised, interested, and doubtful, she told me the story, after which I confirmed her suspicions that "Warzone" is also the name of the new CoD game.

I doubt that counts as "damages," but its absolutely the case that you can't talk about this game to people irl without it becoming a discussion about CoD.
Then again, with my older friends I just still call it Warlight.

Edited 4/15/2021 05:20:22
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 07:55:00


UnFairerOrb76 
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wdym
it is INCONCEIVABLE that we could get the two products mixed up


;)
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 09:07:40


UnFairerOrb76 
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Edited 4/15/2021 09:13:03
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 09:13:12


UnFairerOrb76 
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donation comment on the gofundme page

Never played Warzone, but I don't like corporate bullies, cases like this need to be won in court to set precedent that big business can't barge the small people out of the way whenever they want to.



Its over Activison! We have the people on our side.

*Naruto run activates*




comment on the lawsuit. I find it so hard to talk to friends about this game because i am like "have u played warzone... the mobile one/web browser. AND they would still think that i am talking about COD: warzone.

I was talking to my friend yesterday about this lawsuit and it was so hard to explain to him about it - "warzone is fighting my warzone" - but after getting through and showing him the page and such he totally agrees with me about how dumb activison are. it was not hard saying that Activison and big companies have a tract record with this kinda thing.
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 10:22:56


UnFairerOrb76 
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more quotes from the comment section of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv98CmFn2PI



I’m gonna get my nerdy warzone buddies to play this guy’s browser board game in protest of Acti’s overlord nature and lack of legit anti-cheat!!

support that guy, guys even if he's not 1 person making game he still work on it for 10 years and it's hard specially this time of year

Man, hard enough to be an indie developer. Having to face lawsuit with companies such as activation must be stressful as hell

I feel so bad for Randy. Imagine being in his position. It’s like when someone else steals your comment but they get all the clout for it and you got very little. That’s tough.

It seems like he was fine without the trade Mark until activision got greedy
(SO TRUE)

ALL HAIL WARZONE
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 14:03:49


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I would really recommend to focus on this as well (Nemo mentioned it earlier)

https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/018339690

Activision's claim remains unopposed in EU and there is very few days left. If they get the trademark, they will have legal right to ask for blocking warzone.com for EU states. That would be really troublesome for Fizzer. EU based players constitute at least 50% of his userbase ( probably a lot more, this is my personal estimation) and thus create significant amount of revenue either by ads or direct purchases.
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 14:48:45


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Hi Fizzer,

so i try to follow this issue and want to have a look at your trademark. But i can't find anything on USPTO (United States Patent and Trademark Office) or DPMA (to have a look from germany) or euipo.europa.eu.
However i do find the activision one: https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4804:7mhy36.5.4

Why is that so? Have i done something wrong?

Thank you very much.
I hope that everything will be allright for you and warzone.com :)

Edited 4/15/2021 14:54:14
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 15:37:54


UnFairerOrb76 
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yo but the UK is not part of the EU anymore so would it count here. I doubt it but now u worry me :0
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 16:06:19


Coronel Gavilan
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I agree with my friend Kratt. This situation is a unifying common cause for the community. You have my support and donation, comrade Fizzer.
Activision is suing us!: 2021-04-15 16:11:46

Mark-Dad-Of-Two 
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trademark law varies around the world.
if the EU deadline is approaching then you must oppose it fast
In the USA it is to do with who used it first.
in the EU it is to do with who registered it first but there is a period you can oppose it in. And you have IMHO a winning case.
I can pass on details of a UK based person that could handle this for you a trademark specialist and advise about other parts of the world also
A solo specialist like you so not a massive city law firm which will cost more.
I am sure she will give you a starter session for free
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