Given the screenshot from Fafzor, I'd assume they count as still fogged. Which makes this a strange advancement. From what was said before, I assume that you will strictly get to see the first n recipes. If one of them is a bonus reward, you will most likely not get another revealed. If one is semi-fogged, a Fog Buster will still fully unveil it which will count as one territory.

Yes, these are all assumptions, but I don't like what that would mean for their usefulness.

I'd invest my AP in so many upgrades before I go for a crafter visibility. At the end all the upgrades are good, but some upgrades are just better. Maybe starting from the 7th ascension visibilities are worth it

Maybe starting from the 7th ascension visibilities are worth it

Maybe after I have started not getting Fogbusters from levels anymore.

Maybe after I have started not getting Fogbusters from levels anymore

6-12 visible items won't do much. If you invest go to the max. And for maxing mines+recipes+crafters+markets you'll need AP that you can better invest somewhere else. The only exception for me would be Mercenary Camp Visibility

why? do you buy out each mercenary camp as soon as possible?

6-12 visible items won't do much.

Not for map visibility, but for tracking down the Crafters.

Crafting generates ~1/3 of my total income. And definitely more than I can produce with Bonuses/Territories.

@Dangermouse

no mate. it's for the end phase of the game

@Z

Smelters/crafters without mines won't do much. so you'll have to max both of the visibilities together then

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Mines are more plentiful, but yes, that’d help.

I’m just saying that being better able to track Crafters can help by boosting income.

@Z

fully agreed.

but don't you find that investing first in Increased Money from Bonuses and Increased Item Sell Values will generate you a bigger income?

Agreed

I was more implying after third Ascension. So you should have a decent amount in Phase 3 already.

Besides, 615 AP to max it out won’t slow you down by much.

Keep in mind that you can get fog busters via the coin wheel even after you used up the powers on the map (i.e. collected them twice).

After 2nd/3rd ascension many other advancements are still better than the visibility advancements imo (this excludes merc camp visibility which is indeed useful if you strongly rely on mercs).