Based on the last 10 pages this is what I have gathered from TI.

Around pages 61-62, he claims he is "Too busy to read and post anything", which is not helpful if you are making rationalizations without thinking too much. It's like taking a test with 10 minutes of study time.

Everyone calm down please. And if you could please post-pone the vote for a day or two so I can play catch up please... or w.e. Sorry, life's been busy, and I can barely keep up with my games much less the forum at this point. Hopefully I'll become a little less busy in the future and can squeeze in an hour or so into this.

Hopefully I'll become a little less busy in the future and can squeeze in an hour or so into this.

Shortly after such, he makes bold statements against both Arun and His Balls.

I would not suggest lynching HHH either though.. Mainly because both A. Run and his balls are both pushing for it, and one of them are likely a wolf.

You have been pushing for the votes of several villagers so far, Gnuff and Kantos included. You also hang around with others I have suspicions of being wolves, and go against those I think are villagers. I don't want people to vote his balls. however, not now at least. Also, please hold voting until you see A.run or I vote.. You don't want to get stuck voting with a bunch of wolves, and now we're real close to losing so we must be smart about who we vote.

his balls., I won't vote for you next round. But the main reason I suspect you're a wolf is because you're too pushy.

Well, they influenced the vote on Kantos the most. his balls. Has been pushing me to vote Kantos just as a bandwagon. They invited me to a mail with just us 4. They are what I called 'group B", as they generally work together. Earlier suspicions plus this lynch and an inv + his balls. trying to influence me makes me think wolf.

ARUN STRIKES BACK!

Tactical, explain your reasoning. You have decided on a vote without any discussion, whereas I've gotten input from others on my idea. You are playing stupidly again - if by some miracle with haven't lost yet we will need every villager to vote the same person.

With which TI responds with this half assed argument...

Meh, I tried to get some time so I can put an opinion in. That was a big mistake. Next round I'm voting his balls. And the round after that I'm voting stupid. Angel, please protect people wisely, big night for us.

5 minutes later, he comes back with a list...

Top three on my list.
1. his balls.
2. Dr. Stupid
3. Clavicus

Surprisingly, Arun is no longer a suspect, or at the least not a top one. His balls still at the top of the list, he also names Clavicus and Dr. Stupid on the list, one of which we know is a villager (Bless his soul), while the other two are almost 100% assured to be villagers.

After HHH claims to be the angel, accusations begin by multiple persons...

Arun-

You're a fucking idiot. You play for the village not yourself.

With an angel claim Lawlz jumps up my suspects list.

In the next day I wish to lynch Lawlz, Ace Windu or Kasparov. Probably the two former more so than the latter. Thoughts?

Clavicus-

Why does HHH's angel claim make Lawl jump up your suspets list?

I suspect Kasparov above all, just from his general manner. Ace I do suspect but i'd prefer to look more in detail at his actions before pushing for that. I repeat that voting out Lawlz is not a good idea as he votes with the village anyway. Sometimes, hopefully. there are diehard wolves that actually use their votes to disrupt our attempts at unity, such as Ace and Kasparov (Needs confirmation though i dont have time to go and check)

His Balls-

Hhh's claim is obviously bullshit . At least we brought out a false claim.

Hhh. Who did you save each round? We need a full rundown. As a special of course you will be more than willing to provide us with one.

TI-

I just want to clarify. Lawlz is NOT an Angel.

What clarification was needed TI? Who had considered that I could be an Angel? What use is it to me, active as I am, to deny being angel, and at the same time, not save important people, like Clavicus and JSA?

After further denial on my part of ever being an angel, TI comes back yet again to cast doubt...

If HHH is an angel he's a stupid one. And looking at his 1v1 ladder I'm inclined to think he's a little too smart for how the angels played this game. I'm also under the belief we have no active angels left, therefore, (in my opinion at least) HHH is a liar and likely wolf.

And after several pages of nothing, TI starts back up again accusing me of using Clav's death to my advantage basically...

With Clav dead I'd almost be lead to think HHH was telling the truth. Unless, it was a trick, killing Clav, trying to get someone to think HHH was actually an angel, or that there was an angel left. I'm not so sure we should lynch HHH, just yet, but perhaps vote Lawlz.

All I'm saying with that post is TI may not be the best "Voice of reason", especially after his conflicting votes and lazy attitude. I feel like he can only have influence towards voting for me, because so many others earlier in the game have done so, and don't even think twice about me being a wolf, when indeed they should question it. Why is it, once a wolf suspicion, always a wolf?

I would have to defend my innocence by mentioning the thing that most incriminates me: My freudian slip


While yes I said

I would never lynch two wolves

During the Gnuffles v. Eliza lynch, I meant that a multikill is just an overall bad idea, wolves or not. And to top it off, neither ended up being wolves! But I had 2 choices, Only lynch Eliza, or Multikill both. I think I made the correct choice.


Not to mention Kantos! Another Villager cursed by the Freudian slip, who was cast down as a wolf, yet turned out to be a villager -_____-



*This message was really rushed, apologies if something seems out of place, I will correct later*

Because they did not kill me. I would think the elder would be a likely target, considering my power to silence. But it could have been a wasted attack, making me think the wolves are under the belief there is still an angel running around. So taking out Clav makes me think the Wolves wants this to be a numbers games, and also makes me inclined to think HHH is an angel, unless it is another ploy to try to divert attention from HHH. HHH must be angel as there are no counter-claims, unless the last angel is inactive or refuses to come forth.

I do understand your reasoning but i dont think it is very strong. You were so inactive that maybe they just didn't see a threat. Good to have you back. Besides, as I keep sayimg, everything the wolves do is designed to deceive.

read my last few posts. I'm making an effort now, and if I get accused of fluffing from now on, I'm quitting this altogether.

Kasp, you came here to play. Accusations that you disagree with are part and parcel of the game. Stop acting like a child. You are suddenly making an effort because your head was on the block. Do you see why it looks bad?

If he lurks another round, though, he'll be eliminated anyway, though, right? Why waste time?

Not sure we can wait any more. This is probably the end game.

Arun, you have just moved on haven't you? I asked you some direct questions. Where do you see the bit where I advocated silencing you? The bit that 5 minutes ago shot me up to the top of your list. A list I seem to be off again. Thia reminds me of when you read that there was consensus on ace, when he was least suspected. Selective reading. And I want you to clearly explain the difference between accidently lynching an angel or a villager in the end game.

Lawlz is doing a decent job I think now. I am not strongly behind a lynch for him.

I will put a strong case forward for lynching Arun before the end of the day.

If he lurks another round, though, he'll be eliminated anyway, though, right? Why waste time?

If he's a wolf he will vote very late. We can't let him die naturally.

His Balls, you said who to silence, and followed with a list including me.

5 wolves and technically the village can still get the lynch if both elders are used wisely. Unfortunately they seem to be two of the more inactive participants. Very frustrating.

Who can we get some consensus on?

Hhh for a seriously dubious angel claim and complete blackout of inactivity. Or ace as he must be wolf if hhh is.

Lawlz for his early form.

Arun for his inconsistent form.

You are talking about this post aren't you Arun? I guess I can see where your mistake was made bit to jump on it and immediately call for lynch is far too hot headed.

I was saying two separate things. One was that it is technically possible to win even with 5 wolves left.

The other was looking for consensus on who to lynch.

The last thing I want is to have someone silenced. I am constantly pestering people for information.

There is so much potential sleuthing here people. Has anyone else got any more theories?

I still intend to put together my case for Arun later.

It's still four of five for me so we really should get a hit today as long as the village votes as one. I.e. With skunk and ti.

Edited 10/14/2014 12:24:41

Deadline 20:00 UK time tomorrow evening. So just over 30 hours from now!

Has anyone kept up the voting spreadsheet? That would be very handy right now.

Possible lynches for me:
G. Arun
Heyheuhei
Kasparov

I'm interested to see his balls' case on Arun, but for me he has been pushing against the towniest non-confirmed villager for the whole game without a case. Everything that happens is spun to justify his suspicions of his balls. That's anti-town at best.

HHH has been lurking hard throughout the game and his claim doesn't look genuine to me. That doesn't necessarily mean he's a wolf but I think there's a good chance still. The lack of a CC is not that important because we don't whether there were two angels or not.

Kasparov's posting has been full of fluff and bandwagonning with some timely arrivals in thread when he is suspected to top it all off.

Honestly, I'm at a blank. I can't see any clear wolf right now, so I think I'll just cast a vote for HHH considering he's safe for now (At least I hope so). Does anybody disagree with my vote?

At no point Lawls think I am inactive, I read every post, but only say something when I feel that I should. A smart confirmed villager does not play all his cards at once.

His balls I think he called you stupid :P

Skunk, when are you going to decide your vote? I'm worried that if the confirmeds don't come to a consensus soon, we're going to just scattershot our votes and give the wolves an easy run on someone.
(Just over 5 hours left for voting!)

20:00 UK time tomorrow evening. So just over 30 hours from now!

-roughly 4 hours ago

Nah stupid. We have a day.

That'd be 1pm tomorrow for you Doc (I'm pretty sure)

Lawlz. Who called me stupid, when?

I have persued His Balls when he appears to slip up only. Why would we listen to you Ace? You have lurked and decided tk come out just as it looks like you may be lynched (or lost to I activity). How convenient. I am 100% sure Ace is the best target. Nobody else stands out enough.

I was joking His Balls. Skunk made that comment about "I only show up when I'm needed, because that's what smart villagers do", while you and Arun, comment all the time :P