Just an FYI, JSA and I asked for C-17 to shoot edit: Whups. Apollo. Too sleepy. :P. But yes, sorry for my mistakes earlier Arun. I'll post an updated doc in a little bit.

Edited 9/30/2014 03:46:39

Ok, those are good and logical answers, Arun.

TI is on my hit list -.-

well JSA Im a villager I tried to hunt the wolfs but only find specials
I know that was my mistake doing this but I cant see like you (idiot or seer) and I cant prove being a special only because Im just a villager that manage run from the wolfs being in half target of villager and half target of the wolfes (probably this or they didnt want to kill me)

I think it was wrong going after gnuff after saving him and I said that but voted for him because I had agree going in your votes

well before u guys go after me just saying the people who influenced me in this game was his ball and clavicus vile

My main defence I can use is simple I said there was 8 wolf in past post (through I had forget about the juggawolf) when u belived there was less, in other words I was hunting wolfs

in my opinion u guys should go after other people that didnt revealed themselfs and can get the risk of dying by inactive

Edited 9/30/2014 00:52:08

Exactly why Clav and his balls are thought to be wolves? In my eyes they've both been hunting a lot and contributing very well. We have to be careful not to fall into the trap of lynching the leaders for making mistakes. I don't like Arun's push against them and Kantos' sly push in the post above this looks even worse to me.

Ace I never said they are wolfs
I only said they influenced me and my decisions in this game

TI, you and I asked for C-17 to shoot Apollo, not Lawlz.

Also, I would like others to give their opinions. I would also like to hear Clavicus's and his ball's list of suspects now. I am lax to lynch either of those 2 players though, because despite their wrong guesses, they have gotten players to talk and seem to be acting villagely. However, I agree it is right to be suspicious of them (just as it is with everyone else except the confirmed villagers.)

Edited 9/30/2014 02:14:13

Would like to remind you all, that I was the one that acted to save Gnuffone. I voted for him as I agreed to follow your leads in the matter, but throughout I was trying to defend him. This round and last. I'd like to think that I was pivotal in switching the votes away from him last turn.

I admit to trusting his balls almost completely throughout. This could be my failing, but he has been logical and consistent throughout. He could be a clever wolf, but atleast he contributes if so.

I plan to release my list of suspects (although that's pretty much everyone at this point) but will take some extra time to compile the information.

Also, perhaps I should mention, I am not leading anyone here, nor am I trying. My sole purpose is to incite. Please, argue and fight. The more discussion the better. My paranoid ramblings are there for you to consider and question and make you think, not much more.

Dom, do we have an official deadline yet?

everyone else. sorry, things have gotten crazy at work. I had an idea that I wanted to apply to the data, but I won't get a chance to tabulate that till tomorrow evening. but don't worry, I have read through everyone else's comments and I have come up with four very obvious conclusions based on all the comments.

1. Everyone suspects everyone else except for the three confirmed villagers
2. Some people even suspect them. why???
3. Lawlz suspects everyone
4. Everyone suspects lawlz
5. Lawlz left the LEA clan and is now a Nazi?

Yes, this is a somewhat tongue in cheek post. Just wanted to check in with all. (but I was serious about having a new idea to apply to the existing data. I'm quite excited about it.)

Ville or His Balls must be a wolf. Ace, please tell me you don't just lap up what people say. His Balls has made few incites, fewer still actually leading to wolves. His last few posts have been empty of any actual information. If these players were so smart, why have they not made the same deductions as Gnuffone/me.

Edited 9/30/2014 06:27:45

@TI; good to hear. Please don't be influenced again though! What I mean by that is be skeptical of suggestions, particularly from players like Ville.

Deadline - maybe tomorrow, maybe Thursday. We'll see how the voting goes :)

His balls can be seen as a potential wolf as he is a good player who hasn't been killed yet.

@Kantos, it looked like you were making a sly accusation but I guess it was just because of ESL.

@Arun, no I don't just lap up what people say. I'm not lapping up what you're saying. I'm not convinced that his balls or Clav are wolves. They didn't figure out something Gnuff figured out? So? Who else came to the same conclusions as Gnuff? This is weak.

You say you're tempted by a multilynch? I don't know how many times I have to say this, Multilynch is bad! We don't have the numbers for that! And even if we did it would still be better to lynch one person at a time unless we know for sure that more than one person was a wolf.

@Clav, leader probably wasn't the right word, I just meant you've been contributing more than most.

Here's something I don't understand: the night kill. Why did they go for MoD?

I'm looking forward to getting stuck into this later but a couple if points.

Gnuffs conclusion that Apollo was a wolf was helped by the fact that he knew he wasn't.

MoD was killed for two reasons I think. One, because they know that our angels are likely very quiet. Almost everyone else has been accused which would normally flush out angels. But also he is unlikely to be lynched by the village. Most of the rest of us the wolves could put forward a case to lynch.

Edited 9/30/2014 18:47:09

Skunks list of suspects
In order of most suspected:

1)Lawls (We all know why)

2)Ville (Suspected him from a while back, he is high chance a wolf)

3)Genghis (Every round I bring him up and you are quick to forget about him, he says little of use)

4)General Arun (I believe we are being tricked here people, read below)

5)His Balls (His balls is a very cleaver player, I am suspicious but not greatly)

And for the master trickery I think we are falling for: I believe the wolfs may have sacrificed Apollo to get attention away from them. It is irrelevant that Apollo is the juggawolf as he killed on the night he died, and he had a good person to do so, a vigilante that admitted to being one! General Arun and Genghis's quick posts near each other to vote makes be think they where talking right before they voted, a normally villager would not do that as they would suspect the other of being a wolf. C-17 was tricked into voting for Apollo as the perfect scapegoat, the man that they where going to kill!

For tonight I suggest we kill Genghis!

That would explain the whole madness of yesterday's voting; they threw Apollo under the bus to avoid suspicion, and then counter-voted to lynch Gnuff to avoid suspicion from voting Apollo . . . it's a bit confusing, but it makes sense when you think about it


I'll test your reasoning here. I vote Genghis, and we'll see who votes with me and who against . . .

They'd throw their most powerful wolf away? Please don't give me this bullshit. Skunk, go home you're drunk. Post times are irrelevant; a decent wolf wouldn't have a staged conversation in that style. Why the hell would we vote Ghengis when we know nothing about him? Let me eat and like His Balls, I can get stuck into this. I have a lot of work so that might be quite a bit later but oh well :)

Look at the FACTS. Gnuff was a VILLAGER. Apollo was a WOLF. You need to look at who pushed the vote to lynch Gnuff, and who protected Apollo.

Even without knowing Gnuff was innocent, it remained very unlikely a wolf would vote another wolf. Therefore, Ska voted a villager, Gnuff, meaning he was likely not the only wolf to try and kill the innocent. The logic is simple.

I'm now confused because looking back Clavicus Ville wasn't vehemently against voting Apollo. His Balls wasn't very passionate either but he did oppose an Apollo vote. Combined with his poor advice, bad judgements and empty messages, I must suspect His Balls as the most likely wolf. With Lawlz is is too difficult to tell if he is a wolf, trolling or retarded.

Vote His Balls and apologies to Clavicus Ville. For now at least you are not a suspect of mine :)

this is not good the votes are getting spread again