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Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-15 01:09:04


<SNinja>gg
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okay i can't wait! (i will be the worst in the league probably)
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 15:53:11


Chokecherry 
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Only 5 games left to complete in season 8, and all are in progress (1 each in C,D and H1, and 2 left in E). You can follow the progress from the links at the very top of this thread.

We've had one more retirement from the league, from an A player who would have gone to B. There is a resulting domino effect that means more promotions than earlier set out. Here is the new pattern:

A: aaaabbc
B: abbbccd
C: bccddde
D: ccdeeef
E: deeffgg
F: efgghh
G: fghhhh
H: hh,newcomers
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 16:17:45

JSA 
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I am curious about whether I have to start over at the beginning again. I was in Season 4 I believe and was in Group C or D I believe. So do I get placed back there or do I have to start at the bottom again?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 17:11:43


ChrisCMU 
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Good question. I am curious myself. What if I get to a busy time in my life (like when I am on vacation for two months)? Could I skip a season and come back in the same place? Or do I start over?
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 18:10:53


hedja 
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Chris, staying in same position is a bit unfair i think, people would be put down etc. perhaps you starting 1 league lower for every league you missed? (assuming you count as a relegation each season then) and just larger groups instead of pushing people down? I think it is fairer.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 18:55:23


Chokecherry 
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Starting over at the bottom has always been the rule. You wouldn't be the first to start over. The tournament settings always respect vacations.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 19:35:45


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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In Group H1, I'd like to know whether the following situation may be a tie or not. If I win all my games except the one against Nich, and Nich wins all his games except against Aranka, is the situation a tie or a win for Nich (as he beat me). That situation may arise here (Nich's game against Aranka is the last to be played).
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 20:29:19


Chokecherry 
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The Head-to-head rule resolves this. So Nich wins your group one way or the other.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 20:33:33


Ekstone 
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I would like to revoke my join request, because too dificult (very long time and a lot of games) to reach the top of this league from bottom :(

Chokecherry, what about if would be only two groups?
I mean:
League 1 for the elite, the best 10 players.
League 2 for the very good players (would be 10 players in this group as well).

And in every season would be a big qualifying double-elimination tourney for everybody else who want to join this league.

The winner of the "league 1" would be the champion of the season.
The last three players of the "league 1" would replace with the best 3 players of the "league 2".
The last 4 players of the "league 2" would be out from the league and replace with the best 4 players of the "qualifying double-elimination tourney"

In this way, there is the possibility for every new player become champion in 3 seasons.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 20:39:22


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Arun - happenned a few times already - if there is "enough time left" (<-- subjective decision for chokecherry to make) then you play a tiebreaker RR, if there is not, then you are randomly assigned three spots. The randomizing thing is done automatically by warlight like in every other RR in similar case.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 20:41:37


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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what choke said. i did miss the fact that you had a clear head to head. The tie only happens if A beats B, B beats C and C beats A with equal other games..
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 20:58:43


hedja 
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Ekstone, the method used currently has worked for 8 seasons already, no need to change it.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 22:20:11


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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The whole idea is that it takes time to rise to the top, so having new players having a chance to become champions after 1 season kinda defeats the purpose of the whole concept.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-21 22:33:14


Andersault 
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From what I can tell season 9 hasn't started yet... If that is the case, and there are spots available, I'd like to join. Thanks!
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-22 03:48:37


Ekstone 
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@Hedja
Hmm, I thought there were more and more participiant (= more groups) in every new seasons, but I checked the older seasons (I can find only seasons 5-8) and it seems the growth is no so quick as I thought.

@Frank
I never talked about that new players should be chance to become champions after 1 seasons :P I wrote 3 seasons :)
Anyway, when I wrote that proposal, I visualized group z, but it seems the H group(s) will be the bottom of the leagues.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-22 04:39:54

King Tut
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Please sign me up.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-23 22:15:22


Chokecherry 
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Frank's got that all right. Andersault and King Tut, you're in. Ekstone, I'm assuming you're still out until you say otherwise.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-24 12:06:31


Ekstone 
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I read more about this league (checked the old seasons) and it seems there isn't any major problem with this league (that I thought at first sight) :)

Anyway, I still think, would be better less groups (maybe 4) and the rest players should play a qualifing double-elimination tourney for promotion spaces of the bottom league. So in that way the purpose of your concept still alive and the newcomers (or rejoiners) will be more motivated, couse not so many seasons.

But the present method works for a long time as Hedja wrote.
Btw, what is your plan Chokecherry if for example +20 players want to join?

All in all, if it is possible, I would like to change my mind, and would like to join the league yet. I have no choice, because I am a fanatic competitor face :) and this league has a big reputation.
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-24 16:31:30

Seahawks 
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the whole point of the league is slowly going up, and not taking to long per season, if there was a qualifying double elimination tourney for everyone not in the top 4 groups then it would be super slow and super boring waiting for that tourney to end
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 8: 2013-05-24 20:40:00


kevin#1 
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id like to join as well chokecherry, this is a great league your running btw
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