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The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 14:29:27


Murk 
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it is not described there is nothing there to say what it really does

There is no explanation saying use this card and your forces get reduced by 3/4


Yes there is.
It's right here in the settings:



That's why we're all saying you should read the settings from now on.

It clearly states: use this card and your troops will get reduced.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 15:52:36


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Let's try a different approach.
Did you discuss the card with the host? If so, in which tone and how did he react?
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 16:09:44


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@tarlwolf
Aparently you can't be conviced of this not being cheating. However, be aware that you are damaging augustolords reputation for nothing. That's way worse. Whenever someone searches for his player name in the Warzone Threads, he will get to this one.
Get a hold of yourself and eat a Snickers.

Edited 7/30/2021 16:17:54
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 19:01:40


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If he put the card on 25% intentionally, he totally deserves reputation damage.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 20:43:12

tarlwolf
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Where the heck do you see the word reduce?? It is not there so when you say it says reduce but the word reduce is not there then your not seeing nothing from a cheating host.

When asking the augustolords about the card his exact reply when I called him a cheating Host!

augustolord: "it's your choice to use them or not, it's the same for everyone"

And though all the remaining players are talking about it that was his only comment in the chat about it. He just push's us to take our turns and ignores the 1000 pound gorilla in the room. So he did it on purpose nothing there about it being a mistake no denials! As for augustolords reputation!!!! That someone here is so concerned about. We started off as a 28 player WWII game and are down to 6 players. augustolords has in place when somebody wants to surrender everybody has to agree to that player surrendering. And do you know why augustolords put that in place. He stated early in the game when the first player tried to surrender that he does not believe in letting any player leave the game and surrender out of the game. So you know what happen many players let themselves get booted. Since the host augustolords was the only hold out to accept there surrenders. Three players that also surrendered but did not want there boot rates to go up gifted me there lands to me and gifted themselves out of the game. So a lot of players don't want to be in his games because of that. So it's turn 40 and we are down to the last 7 players. For 5 turns another player wanted to surrender but oh look the host augustolords is the lone hold out and won't let him go. Also on turn 40 the Host augustolords launch's a full scale PE surprise sneak attack on me on the 25 plus lands of mine that boarder him. NOW lets see the rules his rules clearly state you need to declare war before attacking. LOOK MOM no declaration of War from the Host of the game! And not one little mistake of oh sorry I attacked you in one spot a full scale sneak attack at every place on our boarders. He kept on begging me to forgive him. I kept telling him return all my lands and compensate me for the armys I lost if you want my forgiveness. He said no we should keep playing from this point forward but kept whining and begging me to forgive him! Yeah Right! He is the host and breaks his own rules he sets fourth making himself a PE and he wants me to FORGIVE HIM! No way he wants me to justify what he did and he is the HOST! At that point 2 other players declare war on him one of them is the player he will not accept the surrendered too. Another player augustolords ally seeing what has happened knowing augustolords will not let him surrender and leave lets himself be booted from the game bringing us down to 6 players. At that point I use one Blockade card and now we have the cheating host setting the game blockade card so he can cheat! So augustolords ruined his reputation during this game in a step by step process, But that is what happens to cheaters!
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 20:56:32


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where stands it is dissallowed to put emergency blockade card to 0.25?

25% is by its nature a reduction. No description necessary.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 21:13:29

tarlwolf
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Description is necessary like any other game with rules out there if not your a cheater He is a cheating HOST!
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 21:20:19


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Cheater or not - that is the ultimate question!
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-30 21:36:19

tarlwolf
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Already been answered he is a cheater
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 18:30:27


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You know, the proper way to respond to a counterpoint or to someone who disagrees with you is to consider it, and if you disagree with the counter, to calmly explain why. And remember, even if everything you say is absolutely true and can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, people will still say you're wrong. You made your point, people have a right to disagree, respect that right.

As for this argument, I believe it is your responsibility as a player to read the rules and consider them. Quite frankly, I'd rather play a game with four other players that actually read the rules and game description and chat, and hence are more likely to follow the rules and use the settings to their advantage; than with 39 other players who couldn't be bothered to read more than a paragraph, and hence have no idea what they're doing and complain when they're told they broke rules they didn't read or when settings they didn't read are poorly used because they didn't read them. I know these are both extremes that most players don't fall under, I'm simply making a point.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 19:21:09

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Well I read the rules but as some many have pointed out this was a trick to deceive other players and cheating. Also any major company knows when creating a game make the rules simple short and easy to understand. You also have to take in as a game site that there will be players that are going to be children. So it's also not about if the child reads the rules but if your rules can be understood by a child. Not all the players on warzone are adults. Which might be the answer to the question about people leaving the game when it starts or are booted. But people here don't want to seem to take that factor in to account that mom dad and teachers can have the last say on the time they can spend playing.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 19:40:12


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This gives me the idea of having different categories for open games. Perhaps rps and complex diplos and modded games should have their own section, with another for more simple and general games, and another for hardcore strat. I'm putting this out for debate, tell me what you think.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 19:50:11


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When you get into 4th grade you learn that division is multiplication.

Edited 7/31/2021 20:35:10
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 20:13:42

tarlwolf
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I agree good game with what your saying. As for division is multiplication when a cheater trick's you with BS rules then division is multiplication go out the widow
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-07-31 23:38:16


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You know, the proper way to respond to a counterpoint or to someone who disagrees with you is to consider it, and if you disagree with the counter, to calmly explain why.

Nonsense! Perhaps on premises of a university. Discussions between normal people are mainly lead by emotions. The following aspects decide who win:
1) Dominance. If you have a leader aura around you or manage to out-scream your opponent, you get a massive influx of "points"
2) Appeal to emotions. That is how people "connect" with each other. Many are immune to reason. Make a good personal story.
3) Familiarity. People are more likely to adopt the point of view from a friend or known person than from a stranger. If you show that you have different views than your discussion partner, your partner is very unlikely to adopt other views of yours,.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-08-01 00:54:42

tarlwolf
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But when it comes to pointy bullets you have the Good the Bad and the Ugly!
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-08-04 07:48:36


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Well I guess I'm a cheater, too, then . . . I've created games with 0% EB cards. lol

And yes, I do this on purpose. It's actually a useful tool when combined with Multiattack or Limited Multiattack to enable interesting movement patterns. But by golly, have I been cheating all this time? haha

Though tbh, 25% is a bit odd of a setting. Can't think of a situation where this could benefit anyone in the game you played. With MA/LMA, 0% makes for strategic plays, but 25% ... only time that would be beneficial is if there were some negative bonuses on the map (oh frak, is that cheating too?), but I don't see any in the settings of your particular game though.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-08-04 07:52:46


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I guess I am a cheater too by making a quick game with 33% EB cards.
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-08-04 08:06:01

tarlwolf
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Yes you both are cheaters
The host augustolord is cheating WW2 Diplomacy: 2021-08-04 08:43:38


mobtrio 
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In that case I am also a cheater. I never reported such game before. By not reporting cheater mean I am supporting cheater which mean I am also a cheater.

Anyone else want to admit as a cheater?
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