I think we need l4v to run some stats on CW for us like he did for raffles.

Too much work to retrieve the data, would require either violating TOS with some browser automation or spamming the query game API for about a week.

If someone else can take care of that, then I can run the numbers.

@Lefty: the COVID pandemic will probably be declared over, at current trajectories, in mid-2022. So CW6 should beat the return of normalcy by a few months.

Depending on where you live though, the pandemic may already have ended for you long ago.

We asked earlier, in a prev season, and he said (paraphrasing) "let's wait 10+ months and see if it gets better". I think that was ~6 months ago so got a while to go still. The thread was mainly targeted at making CW competitive for all clans, but also interesting for all clans. Competitive factor doesn't apply here but the interesting part certainly does.

The good news is that by the time the current CW season ends, he will then consider it.

Just get Pulsey to make a forum thread about it. The turnaround on that is like a month.

I think we need l4v to run some stats on CW for us like he did for raffles.
Too much work to retrieve the data, would require either violating TOS with some browser automation or spamming the query game API for about a week.

What's required to get it? Surely if a few of us pool efforts together, we can get this done?

Or Fizzer just adds the CW data to the GameIDFeed API....


e.g. https://www.warzone.com/API/GameIDFeed?ClanWarsSlotID=257

Edited 11/11/2021 17:42:01

@krinid: the game IDs and other information for CW (who joined, who didn't get games, which templates were available) are on the time slot pages. These pages are tricky to extract information for without tediously reconstructing Warzone's websocket communications or running a headless browser. Both of which are highly TOS-breaking.

Barring JK's proposal, the only other way to get game data is to shotgun the query game API and see if we found a CW game. Can do it somewhat efficiently by exploiting how CW games tend to be created back to back and a certain predictable amount of time apart but it won't be fast.

It's not really *hard*, just too much effort for the payoff.

I was thinking that if maybe if 10-20 of us manually grabbed the game links from a bunch of CW windows. I was thinking just paste the timeslot window page and extract the game URLs but I see now that they're never exposed, you have to click the button and code will take you to the game, instead of creating a regular HTML hyperlink which would expose the actual game URL.

Hmmm.

just to add to this i got a reply from fizzer

"Thanks for the feedback, and sorry you had a bad experience. I agree seasons should not last this long, adjustment will be made to prevent it from happening again"

A New Hope!

Today's clan wars at 9am CET:

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=6&Timeslot=1488

Fizzer, I'm coming for you! 😆

Besides, I don't want a 2-week break between seasons! 5 days max should be fine. I don't need a break on CW. I'll take a break by not playing a day if I want to. Like everyone else can do.
(And ppl can switch clans if they want to, plenty of time...)

even 5 day is pointless. what shouldhappen is that the first timeslot of a season should be at 0000 UTC to prevent some people in the right timezone getting a extra game in

leia, i think a 2 week break between cw seasons would be good. you were in a stable clan for a long time. i had 4 clan changes in 6 months - none of them of my own volition. i could not finish playing my first cw season due to it. myself and a few other players can only finish current cw season by holding out in a "near zombie clan". a 2 week break between seasons would not prevent the kratt's of this world to ragenuke clans, but it would take some pressure out of thibgs and allow for some needed re-organizations before next cw season starts.

@riskboy - agree with you. after break new cw season should start with 1st timeslot at 00:00 utc

inxs, I don't agree. *on the 2 week break inxs suggests*

Ppl have a routine. If you break that routine, they have to adjust again when you re-activate the routine. A few days should be enough to change clans, if you want to switch. I guess you are sending application letters out to the clan(s) you would like to join? ;)

You can't put the entire community "on hold" because there was this one Kratt-incident... I agree, it was an earthquake but a lot of you found a new place to stay.

Imagine next season takes -let's say- 6 weeks, because we asked to make next seasons to take less time, ppl have to wait another 2 weeks after that to get a new season! Then we'll complain about that! "Why do we have to wait 2 weeks for next season? Blablabla..." - you know?

Conclusion: A few days between seasons would be enough. If you want to take a break, (make sure you change clans in time and) take your break on cw whenever it it comfortable in your life.

Edited 11/13/2021 20:13:12

Today's clan wars at 9am CET:

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=6&Timeslot=1488

Fizzer, I'm coming for you! 😆

I heard someone say that single slot 2v2 was "fixed" and would never appear again. I've seen it in another slot since that declaration. Pls fix! Or more appropriate, always have 2 templates, 1 SE, 1 ME or other. There's really no reason to have just 1 option.

even 5 day is pointless. what shouldhappen is that the first timeslot of a season should be at 0000 UTC to prevent some people in the right timezone getting a extra game in

Agree with you, make the start 0000 UTC. There have been seasons where there are always a few players 1 game played ahead b/c the season ended/started mid-day and only a handful of folks played in the 1-2 slots available before the day shift.

But don't think we need a break in between. If any break is made, it should at most 1 day + the remainder of the partial day the last season ended on. Enough that for everyone paying attention, you can do your clan switches, etc. But even just the partial day is fine. If you miss a day of playing, no big deal. It's just 1 day, hopefully the other 39 players in your clan take up the slack. It's a team event after all.

You can't put the entire community "on hold" because there was this one Kratt-incident... I agree, it was an earthquake but a lot of you found a new place to stay.

Kratt-cident. lol

Agree, no clan incidents, Kratt-cidents notwithstanding, should interfere with CW. CW is bigger than a single clan. Clans come and go, members switch all the time, this was just an unplanned hazard. If someone changes clans too often, well join a stable clan. That was TSFH for 2 years ... but no longer, so find a new one and hope for the best.

The real problem here is that CW itself is hectic and to excel at it, it interferes with life. The timeslot timings are not good, the limited templates available per timeslot is not good, no ability to make up for unplayed games on a different day, etc. There's really no reason all games have to be played on every single 24 hr period, and instead couldn't be a rolling 3-5 day period to people game/life balance. When you need to talk about game/life balance, you know you're dealing with either game addicts or bad game design, or both. CW in its current form favours those with poor game/life balance, or those who happen to fit into the timeslots nicely instead of having to "make time" to play (and be disappointed when a preferably template doesn't come up).

I heard someone say that single slot 2v2 was "fixed" and would never appear again. I've seen it in another slot since that declaration. Pls fix! Or more appropriate, always have 2 templates, 1 SE, 1 ME or other. There's really no reason to have just 1 option.

Apparently Fizzer will fix this in the next update, but idk why he wouldnt fix it now. CW templates are decided by the server anyways, so he doesnt have to roll out an update to all devices either.

I suppose he's just busy with other stuff.

if slotcount==1&&tempalte=="2v2":
chooseTemplate()


Edited 11/14/2021 00:51:20

I think the # of win required to capture territories was lowered from 20 to 15 recently ... it took a long time to go from 70 to 50 territories remaining, but not so long to go from 50 to 15.

THIS SEASON IS ACTUALLY COMING TO AN END! hallelujah y'all

I just wanted to post something