I won't play a clan when half its players are gone. If we lose, you'll say that we are just terrible. If we win, you'll complain that if you would have had all your players, you would have won.

That's not true...like already mentioned we in Relite trust all our members. If you are able to beat the ones we have selected for the challenge then you can count it as a win. I'm pretty confident they'll give you more then you've bargained for as it is already.
And yes....do please ask Bender and JSA-Apex to play too.

You guys are a large clan so you don't have to worry about finding enough players, but in our clan, even if only 2-3 guys don't want to participate in the clan challenge, it leaves us with only 5 or so which would not be enough to really get an accurate representation. I will ask the guys though and see whether we should wait until after the clan league is over.

If you want to commit to the comments you made in this thread it would only be sensible to back up those comments. Furthermore, seeing as you're forming a new clan I would also argue that any practice of the sorts with regards to clan matches would be beneficial for the team forming.

And I would say half the guys in the clan are better than me, you and me can play a best of 7 series on 1v1 with you picking all the maps and settings since I have no problem with extra games at the current time and I know you are picky about the maps you play and you are also a member so you can lower the luck to either 0% or 16% :) My only rules are that luck must be 16% or lower, Offensive and Defensive Kill Ratio can not be changed, no maps bigger than 200 territories, and no really weird card settings.

How hypocritical. First complaining about Relite sending out 7 decent players for this challenge could be only a lose-lose situation for you and then offering the same lose-lose situation to me. If you're serious about this at least make a challenging offer.

tut, challenge him to a 1v1 strategic!

Little boys just don't grow up now do they ?? Apart from hugely overemphasising my dislike of 1vs1 strat you would also need to learn your anatomy again. I've been informed Sobotta and Prometheus are 2 good books to start with. For starters though I would recommend Grey's Anatomy.

ah but 1v1 strategic is like the Warlight currency for skill in this game. If you are good at 1v1 strategic people know at least you're a decent player.

'you would also need to learn your anatomy again. I've been informed Sobotta and Prometheus are 2 good books to start with. For starters though I would recommend Grey's Anatomy.'

wtf?

First point: Okay, Since you said that statement, I will be okay with playing you guys as long as we get the players needed.

Second point: I said originally it might be best to wait until the clan league is almost over. I will ask the clan members though, and if at least 6 of our clan are willing to do it now, we will be up for it.

Third point: Why don't you back up the comments you made in the thread about JSA and Flyingbender being the only players capable of competing with your clan? Surely you aren't worried you'll lose to a weak player like me on your own maps? I'm sure a win in the series would help your own reputation as a good player, I don't know if you've noticed, but I think most people in the forums don't think you are very good.

'That's not true...like already mentioned we in Relite trust all our members. If you are able to beat the ones we have selected for the challenge then you can count it as a win. I'm pretty confident they'll give you more then you've bargained for as it is already.
And yes....do please ask Bender and JSA-Apex to play too. '

My last 3 games with relite players...

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4320592
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4323884
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4274180

PWNED
PONED
OWNED
POANED

sorry, i just cant resist to show off, especially when someone does the same, although i admit cieku and jupiter can kick my ass. :/

I'll play Tut and Winter + alt's tommorow

Right now I will go to sleep. Good night :)

Flyingbender and JSA are both good players whom would give most members in Relite and WG a challenge but I don't think the other players could provide a similar challenge.
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Furthermore even with JSA and Bender in your alliance you guys would still lack the amount of skilled players needed to really give a challenge.

Again: how do you know? You don't know us. Maybe you should ask your friends from Relite first? Let's see what they say:

Common Games with Orange ♦ ɌeLite ♦
Promotion/Relegation League - Season 2,...: Game 2 05/04/2012 1v1 Won

Common Games with DUT©H DESI®E ♦ ɌeLite ♦
13th April Livestreamed Tournament...: First Round 04/13/2013 1v1 Won

Common Games with Mr. X ♦ ɌeLite ♦
MAQUINA BELICA's 1v1: Round of 32 05/04/2013 1v1 Won

And against the feared for some reason ciekiu aka Mannerheim:

Common Games with Mannerheim ♦ ɌeLite ♦
Lolowut's XMas FMS Round 1: First Round 01/13/2013 1v1 Won

4 out of 4 direct games ended with Relite's loss. If that's not "giving a challenge" then what is?
Now all the common games I lost:

Common Games with Mannerheim ♦ ɌeLite ♦
#Europe DM 10/07/2012 22 player FFA Eliminated

Common Games with Adrián407 ♦ ɌeLite ♦
Strategic 10v10: Medium Earth Sing...: Round of 16 08/25/2012 10v10 Eliminated

Common Games with Ottarinn ♦ ɌeLite ♦
CRAZY Europe 24 Player FFA 02/18/2012 24 player FFA Eliminated

Common Games with mosquitero ♦ ɌeLite ♦
5v5 10/17/2012 5v5 Booted

Common Games with Mannerheim ♦ ɌeLite ♦
#Europe DM 10/07/2012 22 player FFA Eliminated

So you guys managed to beat me in 3 FFAs, some random open 5v5 game and an even more random 10v10. Well done.

So next time Aranka, please don't judge people from... I don't even know... nicks? There are no profile links in this thread. You have no idea even about our stats.

guys here is no need to get so annoyed at each other. To be honest CK's line-up looks good, but Relite is already sort of established as an elitist clan, and you guys haven't had a challenge as a whole clan yet. No-one is saying you aren't good, but if you haven't played many games with someone, you don't expect them to be amazing.

Please don't get so worked up about this, it is only a game.

If I'm playing against someone I don't know at all, and I can't see his stats, I never think he is amazing, or good, or bad, or whatever. Because I don't know. But don't underestimate him. And even if for some reason I suspect he is terrible, I don't tell him that. That's just bad sportsmanship. And it is a reason to be annoyed.

And noone here thinks we are better than Relite, we are just fighting Aranka's "I don't know him, so he's bad" logic.

I didn't say bad. In my opening start I said your team looked good enough. Check to see for yourself if you don't believe me.

All I was saying is that I do not believe you guys to be at the same level as WM,Apex,Relite and/or WG. That's all

Yep, challenge made

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4336975

whooops wrong eu link, whats with my trackpad :(

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4334747