Most of the things people are saying they want in this thread, the players can already create for themselves. Leagues, clans, ratings. Granted they are not exactly how you want them, but they work reasonably well much of the time.

We cannot, however, create a mobile client for Warlight. So really, it wasn't a difficult decision for Fizzer to make when deciding what he should be spending his time on.

Problems with a global ELO rating have been alluded to regarding the customisability of games which would most likely lead to a few select templates being used to determine people's ratings. That sounds a lot like what we have already. Alas, Gui's eventual boredom is inevitable, whether he knows it or not.

And I don't really see the benefits of an "Official Clan System." It would basically be there just for convenience because clans are already able to organise their own tournaments quite efficiently.

Readers, ignore that pessimistic post. His country is suffering hard times and he is depressed.

+1 to NoobSchool. I love both clans I am in and would have a very hard time choosing between them.

" A pessimist is what a realist calls an optimist "

- Traynor

or vice versa ...

To multiple clan issue...

You already choose a clan to compete for in clan leagues, etc. It would be the same thing, you would count only towards one. Doesn't mean you can't be associated with more than one (use taglines).

Anyway, doesn't matter. It won't every be official system IMO.

if your issue with uservoice is lack of discussion you can always create a forum thread to start discussion prior to submitting it on uservoice. if there is enough votes it cant get forever ignored. ofcourse time is limited for Fizzer as a single developer, and people often think something is brilliant while ignoring the caveats of how it'll actually work in practical terms. he has to just follow his gut at some point. but if something has enough votes its harder to ignore, at this point ELO rating has a total of 0 votes.

Maybe you missed the part where i explained why i think we need a clan system. People not impersonating a clan member was only one point. Please, go and tell to all those gamers that compete each other on ESL league what they think about an official rating...

Who are you responding to Anonymous? Windu?

One thing to consider about an official clan system is that clans self police. They discourage trolling because every clan has a set of standards, whatever they may be. Sure, trolling still happens, but if it was an official system with rewards like other ladders, you'd see a lot less trolling going on.


I think the biggest need (once the mobile client is done) is a forum overhaul. I think Fizzer simply has too much to do, and empowering some good people to oversee the forums would free him up a lot. Everything would be organized and he could simply focus on the forums that help him the most (bugs, suggested changes, etc), while ignoring off topic, maybe some strategy forums, clan forum, etc. It would also reduce the load on servers if you could edit your posts (less duplicate posts or revising comments), if things were organized better (less duplicate topics). Not to mention if there were ads on the forums it would generate a lot more hits if the forums were better, which means extra cash to help offset his debts there.

I suppose I contradicted myself some (on the load on servers). extra traffic would result in extra storage, but it would be paid for more (because it would be extra hits and not just a person clarifying their idea, wasting space).

To continue with my "pessimism", the forums aren't worth putting effort into. As evidence, I put forth that absolutely no effort has been made towards them whatsoever thus far. And I don't blame Randy for that at all.

One thing that really bothers me (and I have no idea how simple it is)...

RR's with random tiebreaker (three way split that head to head can't sort out). Suppose you are in a 20 team RR and 3 teams finish first. But you get 3rd place from a random tiebreaker. Sucks, IMO. I wish the system just allowed you to have three 1st place teams in that scenario.

We still cannot ignore the lack of a 1vs1 Europe ladder..

Europe maps ARE the most popular maps on Warlight - no question. Within the top 8 maps on Warlight, 6 of them are Europe. And the top 3 are all Europe maps.

They have too many territories you say?
Not Troll's Europe nor Imperium Romanum with 206 and 106 territories respectively compared to medium earth's 131.

If Trolls Europe has too many territories still - how many of these territories are actually used in a manual pick 1v1 strategic game?
A lot of the big bonus's such as Germany,Greece, Italy and Romania ect. can be excluded from most games leaving a healthy 1v1 Strategic territory count of around 130.
I also believe Troll's Europe might be even more 'strategic' than medium earth - and everyone likes a change since the current ladder has been running for a couple of years.
BUT it is not like the current 1v1 Medium Earth would stop, that's not what I'm saying should happen - why can't both ladders run?

It also gives an alternative to the paying members who don't like medium earth.

Both of these maps are top maps voted by warlight players and it makes sense to have a ladder including the continent of the majority of warlight players too- europe.

It will make the ladders even more interesting and give more incentive to become a member. Why is there a 1v1 ladder on Medium Earth when it is only the 23rd map best map? And no ladder for any europe map? There is a demand for this. How many non-members would become a member to play in the Europe 1v1 ladder?

CLOT is too external and only available for creating ladders by those select few who can code a ladder well, and there is not enough players if one was decently made. If a ladder was made on warlight on a europe map, not only would it be more satisfying (Being on the dashboard) but would gain a lot of players. I know of many members and non-members alike who want to test there skills on a Europe map in a ladder. (This could be because the current medium earth map maybe has stagnated)

I am not trying to attack Warlight, I think Warlight is awesome but I don't understand why there isn't a Europe ladder on either Troll's Europe or Kayn's when it would be both beneficial to the user base and yourself, Fizzer?
Does it cost you, Fizzer considerably more to have another ladder?
I truly think it would be one of the biggest and best contributions to warlight including this in the 2.0 update or afterwards is a perfect time to do it. There should be some sort of survey to see if players would want an additional ladder on Europe. I also bet it would keep 'retiring' players still interested - such as what Gui was talking about earlier.
Warlight needs this Fizzer! :)

Major Risk, Medium Earth is in my opinion, the best 1v1 map I have played on. Europe is best as a 3v3 map. I think the ladder warlight needs the most right now is the 3v3 Europe ladder. But some other good ones would be: Europe 2v2, Imperium Romanum 1v1, East Asia & Oceania 1v1, Phobia 1v1. There are many good 1v1 maps, and while Europe is decent for 1v1, it is not one of the best. But it is one of the best for 2v2 and is definitely the best at 3v3.

Eu 1v1 is bad. Much better 3v3 ;)

3v3 Trolls Europe would be a better addition yes, or Imperium Romanum 1v1.
Warlight is totally lacking a 3v3 Ladder, but either would add so much to the ladders..

If Fizzer would add 3v3 eu , 1v1 imperum romanum, 2v2 Eu or another good map, i would join all 3 and i think a lot of player will do the same.

Continue to ignore ace windu, his dog died and then his cat ran out to see what happened and got killed too.

Gui, have I gained the power of online invisibility or have you learned online hypnosis?

Anyway, I'm confident Fizzer will add another ladder or two in the update. He has no reason not to as far as I can see.

Maybe he hasn't added a ladder in a long time so that he has a surefire winner to stick into the big update? Not inconceivable.

Ace, I think you might be right on that. 1.0 was a huge update. That was where membership was added and the ladders were made. I hope 2.0 is close to that big, I think adding a couple ladders plus the leveling system plus a league or clan system would be very nice.