fizzer, will there be an official clan system?

For those of us who have a great many games already (such as myself, HHH, etc..) will we start at a higher level, such as 40 or whatever? Or does all of this start from the beginning?

For example, when 2.0 is released, will every player be level 0? Or will people start at the level they *should* be based on who they have beaten, completed tournaments, and whatever else contributes to a high level? I would be mildly annoyed if someone who created an account today and old players like myself had the same level :/ I understand that is a level playing field, but I've already put a great many hours into this game, while they haven't.

i'm curious

+1 nooschool, i completely agree. I think Fizzer have to consider past games.

all players will start as level 1, it's written in the blog.

oh sorry, didn't understand it.
I think is a mistake, all old player will be angry bc this imho.

For those of us who have a great many games already (such as myself, HHH, etc..) will we start at a higher level, such as 40 or whatever? Or does all of this start from the beginning?

I put a great deal of thought into this, in fact. I was very close to making a section on it in the blog post.

In the end, I feel the right decision is to start everyone at level 1*. Some people have been playing since 2008, and if the points were given out for every game played there would be tons of people who basically started out already done leveling.

The fun is really in the journey, not the destination. Think about the last RPG you played -- did you have more fun after you were max level, or while you were leveling up?

This would also make it impossible for new players to compete.

*: This is not entirely true. Some things *will* carry over from before 2.0 and award points. But it's the exception rather than the rule. More on this will be announced later.

All accounts created before this announcement will be considered grandfathered. All grandfathered accounts will automatically have access to all of the features that used to be given by default. This is done so that nobody loses anything when 2.0 goes live.

I want to discourage innovation fizzer, but i rather see true ELO but this.
It will end in the way that sheeple run after badges and awards that give no indication of playing skill instead of being able to really compete through something more universally objective such as an ELO system.

I like the idea but I kinda agree with noobschool. Also what's the point in members doing we would unlock things that we already have. Also what's the maximan level?

Myhand wouldn't that only work fairly with a single game type? I don't personally see this happening. This 'xp' idea is much better IMHO.

Apollo all your queries except the level cap one have been answered here or on the blog post :P

After hearing the answers to my questions, I think it is a very good idea and should work well. I am sure there will be some problems with it but I have no doubt you will correct the errors and make it as close to perfection as it can be.

+1 to JSA. I can't wait for v2.0 to be released :D


Fizzer, do you have any idea on a time frame at all?

yeah, i want to know also if it iwll be a week or a few months

Despite the validity of muhand's argument we should notice that WL wont be just about this points system. We already have players in some quite bad clans who only think about stats and this wouldnt change much to the emntality of those players. It is obvious that if you want to be considered a good player you need to do things correctly, and no one will consider another billy walsh as anyone relevant

He said already: as soon as possible.

My initial reaction: you are devaluing membership, meaning less revenue, and encouraging people to play lots and lots of games, which means the site will be more expensive to run.

Then I remembered about the adverts, so I guess on that model this makes a lot of sense (and maybe membership will be even more attractive).

My only remaining problem is that you are making warlight to addictive, and it is harmful to society.

Also these farmer should be a lot easier to find, and Fizzer will have to do more to find them.

I wish i was a new player. I played for 3 years... and now i feel sorta "exausted".
This is like...uhm...like we all have a car, someones are older, some others are new. They all go on gazoline. Now they invented a new fuel which will bring more efficency, fun, money etc etc, but some o the cars are still old as shit. They have their own KMs...so already near the end of their "life" or lets say already passed the peak.


How do you think i feel in front of the idea that all my 4000 games or the infinite games of HHH doesn't count nothing? :S I can't see any incentive for leveling. Maybe i should still wait for the release to talk, but imho we'll have a lot of "pro" players with a lower level than other new players rated higher because of more games played.

A level system based completly on skills would be much better.

anonymous, we should probably wait and see... what seems to be obvious is that this improvement may attract more ppl to the site (=money), and hopefully the other players wont be in a much worst position than previously