#1:
Brazil 1
France 1
Netherlands/Flanders 1
Italy
Israel
Germany
Poland 1
GB and Ireland 1

#2
USA Central 1
USA Central 2
Netherlands 2
Norway
USA East
Lithuania
Australia/NewZealand
USA West

My votes:

A
Brazil 1, Israel, USA Central 1, Italy, Poland 1, UK/Ireland 1, Germany

B
Neth/Flanders 1, France 1, USA East, Lithuania, Neth/Flanders 2, USA Central 2, Norway

C
USA West, UK/Ireland 2, France 2, Aus/NZ, USA Central 3, Poland 2, Czech/Slovakia



Not sure if JSA's votes for USA Central 1 and 3 would be the same. I know it will be pretty darn close though, so if you need to finish voting before the 3rd when he gets back, just apply my votes for all three teams.

#1
Brazil (1)
France (1)
Germany
Great Britain (1)
Israel
Netherlands/Flanders (1)

Poland (1)
USA Central (1)

#2
CzechRepublic/Slovakia
Great Britain (2)
Italy
Netherlands/Flanders (2)
Norway
Poland (2)
USA Central (2)
USA East

Just to clarify, the system we are using is a bracket system, with teams ranked based on our votes? So what happens with all the teams we are not putting into pools? Are you doing that?

You'd still need to draw teams from pools, unless we ranked them all 1-32 for each captain.

"Not sure if JSA's votes for USA Central 1 and 3 would be the same. I know it will be pretty darn close though, so if you need to finish voting before the 3rd when he gets back, just apply my votes for all three teams."

Just to clarify: Are you saying the same person gets to vote multiple times, for multiple teams?

yes, bc jsa is out (Holiday), and cris could vote as captain of all 3 team.

What I am saying is that he may have a team or two in a different category. He sent them to me in an online messenger, but it didn't save the chat. So I can't be sure his would match mine, I just know they are close.

I am counting the votes and wondering just that Chris.
Two seed groups or 1-16 seeded than against random nation.
Teams voted the same points will also be sorted into bracket

how do you guys prefer?

We can do nothing that require everyone voting, this has to start soon (it was suppose to start in august 1st)

I think you have two options:

1) seed all 32 teams in elimination tournaments (seed 16, then random for seeds 17-32). If you separate into groups, then you are basically not giving people outside top group a chance to win.

2) Do small RR's for each region (like world cup soccer/football), then seed in elim tourney based on results of RRs (with some teams being knocked out of elim all together based on RR). The actual Nations Cup is also RR style, so perhaps some sort of RR is in order here.

I prefer the latter method, otherwise your nations cup experience could only last 1 game, which is not a lot for all the work that has gone into this on forming teams.

and here are the points:
Brazil 1  16 points #1
Italy 1 15 points #2
Israel 1  15 points #2
Great Britain and Ireland 1  14,5 points #4
Germany 1  14 points #5
Central US 1  13,5 points #6
Poland 1  13 points #7
Netherlands and Flanders 1  13 points #7
France 1  13 points #7
Norway 1  9,5 points #10
East US 1  8 points #11
Central US 2  6,5 points #12
Lithuania 1  6,5 points #12
Netherlands and Flanders 2 6,5 points #12
West Us 6 points #15
Australia and New Zealand 1 3 points #16
Poland 2  3 points #16
Czech 3 points #16
Great Britain and Ireland 2 3 points
Serbia 2
Canada 1
France 2 1
Usa Central 3 1

I think your second method is valid,
but i dont know how much regions we have, and with 32 teams seems more appropriate. What can be done is already preparing something like that for the 3rd nations cup, where the eliminated teams start round robins for their future in a 3rd (smaller) nations cup.

If I group by region...

North America:
USA Central 1-3
USA East
USA West
Canada

North Atlantic:
GB/Ireland 1-3
Neth/Flanders 1-3
Norway

Central Europe:
Poland 1-3
Lithuania
Germany
Aus/Switz

Southern Europe:
France 1-2
Italy
Czech/Slovakia
Croatia 1-2

Others:
Brazil 1-3
Aus/NZ
Isreal

You could put Norway in others just to make all groups 6 teams.

Or to keep geography...leave Norway in North Atlantic, maybe put Isreal in South Europe (not really, but close), change "Others" to South America/Oceanic.

It wouldn't be even, but then you can alter the amount that advance based on # in a group.

Like the groups with 7 get 4 teams moving on. The groups of 6 get 3, the group of 4 gets 2. Total of 16 teams make the elimination tourney

This way "bad" teams at least get 3+ games with each other. Perhaps the next season you can give bye's to regional winners or something to make it shorter?

The other advantage to the RR system is it allows for additional participation next season. You don't have to cut it off at 32 teams. You simply need to assign a number of teams that pass the RRs from each group.

If it is a matter of workload, I'm sure captains can set up games. That way it doesn't all fall on you.

Wait, why group the RRs by region? Wasn't (one of) the points of using seeds to prevent teams from the same country from meeting each other in the first few rounds? Now you are doing the exact opposite, forcing them to fight each other at the very beginning and only having space for one (or two) of them to go on.

Call me selfish (I'm on NL/FL #3), but I'd prefer being able to get past the group stages without having to eliminate NL/FL #1 and NL/FL #2 (whether or not we're able to is a different matter of course :p ).
Besides, if one of the other NL/FL teams is tied with one of the GB/Ire teams for the last spot to continue and then has to play their last match against us, we're in a very weird position, with a really nasty incentive to deliberately throw the match and let them win...

In short: RR preliminaries + single elimination "finals": sure, I see the benefits. But not with these groups.


ps. I'm not a team captain, this is simply my own, personal opinion.

I like the idee of small RR's like world cup soccer/football and then seed in elim tourney based on results of RRs with some teams being knocked out of elim all together based on RR. The actual Nations Cup is also RR style, so perhaps some sort of RR is in order here.

But i think it is better to mix regions and make RR's of 4 teams (like world cup soccer/football)

You would not knock your countrymen out, as 3-4 teams from your group could advance.

But, you could mix regions for sure. You could use seedings to form the RRs. That way each group is evenly weighted for the most part and you have the potential to have all you country advance

So maybe something like this (using snaking method on your points, avoiding same country if it occurs)...

Group A:
Brazil 1
Neth 1
France 1
Aus/NZ
Poland 2

Group B:
Italy 1
Poland 1
Norway
USA West
Czech
USA Central 3

Group C:
Isreal
USA Central 1
USA East
Neth 2
GB/Ireland 2
France 2

Group D:
GB/Ireland 1
Germany
USA Central 2
Lithuania
Serbia
Canada

Then fill in with other teams