But if it was part of the league, then the option to decline (and the option to force-join) wouldn't be there..

Also, what if they have a valid reason for not joining? They might be busy, or they might be concerned about a particular setting..

My proposal, if somebody don't want to play that game (decline), he (and his clan) can win that game without play (Warlighters lost that point).

And thank you in advance for that players who give us the chance.

This is a personal proposal (not official, couse I am a simple member not a leader :) ).

But that goes too far the other way, I think - if this is the case, everyone can freely decline the game and win a point, without playing the game!

Hopefully, everyone has the decency to play the spare game, but I think there are issues which must be considered.

Clearly the only answer to decide declined games is to let me roll a 6 die, and let 1-4 be winning for non-Warlighter and 5-6 be a win for Warlighters. :3

I'm kidding, as that isn't fair at all. :3

I don't want to extend the discussion about Igorsouza's issue, if the replacement is legal ou immoral, whatever. I think he's now back to play. And even if he's not free to play I will not replace him. This Clan League is being very stressful for a lot of people, and we BRs won't create more trouble or discussion. Despite of our last place, we're having good times and this is our main goal.

But please, for the next league let's create clear rules for almost every possible case, even if we have to write 10 pages together.

This will be the only season with the "Arun Rule" and will not be allowed in the future ever. If the opposing player declines twice, then that team gets a win. If the team is more worried about winning than playing the game, let them do that. I personally think some will play anyways to be fair but if they decline, they should not be penalized for the {Warlighter's} error.

What is going on in this league (just reading the thread for the first time)?

What is with all the replacing? We have many losses to boots/inactives in Group A, nobody seems to be complaining about that. Ultimately it is up to the clan leader to field a group of players that will be there the entire league season.

I think if we want a sub-provision, we can look into that, but it needs to be the same rule for all clans across both leagues.

Any updates here?

Meh, last update's on page 4, though...

Mannerheim is the first to 4 wins; he also has no losses.
Miyagi, Arun, Eririn, and FlyingBurrito all have 3 wins; Miyagi has 2 losses, Arun & Eririn have 1 loss, and Burrito has none.

On the other hand in terms of losses, you have Falcoun, Frostbite, Charles, and Gror with 3 losses each.

Wipes brow - We are holding up well :)

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5617 - 1v1 (A)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5618 - 1v1 (B)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5619 - 1v1 (C)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5620 - 1v1 (D)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5622 - 2v2 (East Asia & Oceania)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5624 - 2v2 (Strategic 2v2)
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=5625 - 3v3 (Europe)


Tournament links on the current page.

EDIT: Gror has 1 win against GSS, I'm pretty sure it hasn't been counted until now.

He is currently 1-3

Edited 9/4/2013 23:47:21

I don't want to extend the discussion about Igorsouza's issue, if the replacement is legal ou immoral, whatever.
Honestly, my post wasn't meant to highlight that, it was meant to highlight this point...

For the 2v2 and 3v3 games, booted players do NOT get replaced by AI.
Obviously Group A dealt with no AIs, but this was a suggestion that would have helped a lot due to the ability to take over from AI. I thought the setting was on because Red complained about it in the Group A topic and JSA commented on how he'd add the setting next time.

Obviously a loss is a loss whether it's by boot or by surrender, but meh AI > nothing.

Another update! In this one, GG concedes a point to MC. Polakillo replaces Thor, while someone other than Arun finally scores for Warlighters (Ekstone). Ties are still here, with VIW, Master, and Warlighter competing for second, all with a +3 score. Meanwhile, 5th is drawn between MC and Dragon, both with a score of 0.

The fourth 1v1 has moved the fastest, with 12 games done. The second has 11 games done, the first has 10 games done, and the third has 5 games done.

     1v1:Overall|       #1      |       #2        |       #3        |        #4
      GG: 09-01 | Dutch     1-0 | Mannerheim  4-1 | Green Storm 2-0 | MG            2-0
Warlight: 04-01 | Ekstone   1-0 | Polakillo   0-0 | Photon      0-0 | General Arun  3-1
     VIW: 07-04 | Burrito   3-0 | Syvedyas    3-1 | Seahawks    0-0 | GeneralGror   1-3
  Master: 06-05 | TWM       1-2 | Master Race 1-0 | Master      1-1 | Miyagi        3-2
  Dragon: 03-05 | Elder&God 0-2 | Frostbite   0-3 | Legacy      2-0 | Elder&Goddess 1-0
   101st: 06-08 | Eririn    3-1 | Pyrrhus     1-2 | Charles     0-3 | Unreality     2-2
      MC: 03-05 | Falcoun   1-3 | Mordred     2-2 | SamDatt     N/A | Nyan          N/A
      BR: 00-09 | Furacao   0-2 | Timborium   0-2 | vontheevil  0-1 | GSS           0-4
                                 > Each 1v1 game is worth 1 point <

     2v2:Overall|          Medium Earth           |         East Asia & Oceania
  Master: 01-00 | Miyagi        / TWM         0-0 | Master Race     / Master        1-0
  Dragon: 01-00 | Punishment    / Legend      0-0 | Intimidator     / Frostbite     1-0
      MC: 01-00 | SamDatt       / Falcoun     0-0 | Mordred         / Nyan          1-0
      GG: 00-00 | Green Storm   / Bzox        0-0 | Ctrl Alt Delete / Mr. X         0-0
     VIW: 00-00 | Lord Syvedyas / Burrito     0-0 | Seahawks        / Pushover      0-0
   101st: 00-00 | Eririn        / Apollo      0-0 | Dom365          / gRrEn         0-0
Warlight: 00-00 | General Arun  / Photon      0-0 | Firestorm       / Polakillo     0-0
      BR: 00-03 | Timborium     / Furacao     0-0 | IgorSouza       / GSS           0-3
                                 > Each 2v2 game is worth 2 points <

     3v3: Score |                  Players 
      GG:  0-0  | JUPITER       / Mannerheim      / mosquitero
  Master:  0-0  | Master Race   / Master Miyagi   / TheWarlightMaster
     VIW:  0-0  | Dosphorus     / CheekyChicken   / FlyingBurrito
  Dragon:  0-0  | Frostbite     / unclejjp        / Legacy
   101st:  0-0  | Krawat        / Machiavelly     / General Charles De Gaulle
Warlight:  0-0  | Polakillo     / Firestorm       / Febo
      BR:  0-0  | Timborium     / vontheevil      / eddieh4rry
      MC:  0-0  | Falcoun       / Mordred         / SamDatt
                > Each 3v3 game is worth 4 points <

  Points: Total | +/- |  1v1  |  2v2  |  3v3  | Remaining Points
      GG: 09-01 | +08 | 09-01 | 00-00 | 00-00 | 74
Warlight: 04-01 | +03 | 04-01 | 00-00 | 00-00 | 79
     VIW: 07-04 | +03 | 07-04 | 00-00 | 00-00 | 73
  Master: 08-05 | +03 | 06-05 | 02-00 | 00-00 | 71
      MC: 05-05 |  0  | 03-05 | 02-00 | 00-00 | 74
  Dragon: 05-05 |  0  | 03-05 | 02-00 | 00-00 | 74
   101st: 06-08 | -02 | 06-08 | 00-00 | 00-00 | 70
      BR: 00-15 | -15 | 00-09 | 00-06 | 00-00 | 69

Games Finished: 041 (1v1's - #1: 10, #2: 11, #3: 05, #4: 12; ME: 00, EA&0: 03, EU: 00)
    Games Left: 155 (1v1's - #1: 18, #2: 17, #3: 23, #4: 16; ME: 28, EA&0: 25, EU: 28)
Max score: 28*3 = 84 points

Edited 9/5/2013 22:40:22

If anyone's curious, here's the roster for each team, sorted by how many players they have

Players (Maximum: 11; Minimum: 4)
101st (9): Eririn (1v1, 2v2), General Charles De Gaulle (1v1, 3v3), Pyrrhus (1v1), Unreality (1v1), Apollo (2v2), Dom365 (2v2), gRrEn (2v2), Krawat (3v3), Machiavelly (3v3)

GG (9): Mannerheim (1v1, 3v3), Green Storm (1v1, 2v2), Dutch Desire (1v1), MG (1v1), Bzox (2v2), Ctrl Alt Delete (2v2), Mr. X (2v2), JUPITER (3v3), mosquitero (3v3)

Dragon (8): Frostbite (All), Legacy (1v1, 3v3), Elder&God (1v1), Elder&Goddess (1v1), Punishment (2v2), Legend (2v2), Intimidator (2v2), unclejjp (3v3)

VIW (7): FlyingBurrito (All), Seahawks (1v1, 2v2), Lord Syvedyas (1v1, 2v2), GeneralGror (1v1), Pushover (2v2), CheekyChicken (3v3), Dosphorus (3v3)

Warlighter (6): Polakillo (All), General Arun (1v1, 2v2), Photon (1v1, 2v2), Firestorm (2v2, 3v3), Ekstone (1v1), Febo (3v3)

BR (6): Timborium (All), Furacao (1v1, 2v2), GSS (1v1, 2v2), vontheevil (1v1, 3v3), Igorsouza (2v2), eddieh4rry (3v3)

Master (4): TheWarlightMaster (All), Master Miyagi (All), Master Race (All), Master (1v1, 2v2)

MC (4): Falcoun (All), Mordred (All), SamDatt (All), Nyan (1v1, 2v2)

Edited 9/5/2013 20:57:41

Thanks Kerosea :)

That player spread is a very interesting graphic, thanks!

Eririn, the official Clan League B commentator. Well done!

LoLz modred beat Mannerheim on a bit of goodluck but he still beat him, even though turn 6 he forgets to take scandanavia hehehhe

Very thx for your reports Eririn!
I think this is the biggest lack of the warlight, I mean the news (and historical infos and hall of fame) about tourney series.
And you can do it very well, thx again!

Only one remark.
You wrote this:
'while someone other than Arun finally scores for Warlighters (Ekstone).'
You should write this 'finally finished a game' instead of 'finally scores' :P