Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 18:58:06 |
Harmony
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getting a high ranking would indeed be worrysome for the FreeWin hunters.
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If I get matched with Good News, I surrender (if the Good News opponent isn’t faster doing so), because a loss against them drops our rating faster than a loss against OPtimum would do. Thanks for giving an explanation on how your scheme works. It's good to know that Good News collusion with your clan allows FTW to get higher territory amount and as result better rewards. Comparison:https://wz-clanwars.netlify.appOptimum 693.1 CWR Le Furie Azzurre 159.5 CWR KILL ‘EM ALL 143.9 CWR FTW! 43.4 CWR Good News 0 CWR If you need your 1 mandatory win, wouldn't it make sense to surrender get booted against all Le Furrie Azzurre and KILL 'EM ALL opponents as well? You should fight Good News much more, because the one unique win from those games would raise your rating less.you seem to think that we would want a high rating, because Nono proposed that… No, you want high ranking. Ranking is based on total territory/win amount and not on actual rating. I am also aware that whatever I write here will be seen as an implicit confession of being an alt. Whether you confess to being an alt or not, only affects how long your suspension will be. Mods have access to multiple tools which can confirm whether you are or aren't an alt. If it makes you feel better, you can maintain to being a unique human being to the very end. This post was written by my father, who helped me formulate my response, and is much better at English than I am. His handle is Krulle. There's only one player named Krulle https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8416400874&u=Krulle_1 Would you like to elaborate further on FTW and The Last Alliance relationship?
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 21:57:44 |
Krulle
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hey there. Yes, Lukas is my son, and yes, I wrote that message on Lukas' tablet. He had troubles getting his thoughts formulated.
And no. I know Nono since our common time at TSFH, and later Harmony (before that one imploded as well). Not much more to it. That's why Lukas got invited over. We kept lose contact. Which makes it look weird to me, as the times of Nono being reachable and playing times of Good News members did not correlate.
There have been comments about some things between Lukas and me, regarding ClanWars activities, but in the end that's Lukas' decision. It's already problematic that he and I play at the same time from the same IP. So,far, CW never matched us, but what if?
Also, I know Nono did not get accepted into TLA back when TSFH/Harmony imploded, due to the regular flame wars whenever he popped up in GeneralChat after his Raffle scheme.
So far my observations and comments. Won't change much, also because they are my subjective observations and memory. And noone should base any decisions on that.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 22:28:10 |
Harmony
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I can confirm that LAFfe Lukas and Krulle were confirmed to be unique humans. Our investigation team has no issue with either of them.
Based on my talk with mods, it appears that remaining players in FTW!, Good News and Really Right clans are all alts. If there are any updates, I will correct this statement, but the mods sounded certain during our previous talks.
NONO should really consider how he's going to prove his innocence if it's truly the case. We believe that he intentionally rigged Clan Wars results in favor of his 2 participating clans. If NONO knows that he's in the wrong, he should consider confessing to his rule violations. Unapologetic behavior can only make upcoming warnings/suspensions harsher.
If anyone has additional information on NONO or any other person rigging clan wars or any other Warzone event, you should inform moderation team about it. Any additional information will be greatly appreciated.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 22:34:41 |
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Based on my talk with mods, it appears that remaining players in FTW!, Good News and Really Right clans are all alts. If there are any updates, I will correct this statement, but the mods sounded certain during our previous talks. Do you mean that all members GN are NONO's alts? I remember there was a GN recruiting thread: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/677910-good-news-recruitingAnd they stated there, that: we also do not recruit alt accounts. just to be clear. thx for your understanding. i'll give it 1 more try to describe as clearly as i can what kind of player we'd like to welcome to our clan: real player, active = a couple 1000 points in last 30 days, playing idle and some classic pvp, either not yet in a clan or unhappy in current clan, wanting idle rewards from cw, willing to participate in cw matches as often as possible - but without pressure. current level or skill secondary. There were stated suspicions, that the clan owner was an alt himself (even some NONO's vibes in GN's messages, but not very sure about that). But still this is quite puzzling then.
Edited 8/16/2023 22:35:33
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 22:45:28 |
Krulle
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Still, I prefer to be open about it. But I like such tactical games. And I am happy Lukas likes it too.
We are aware of it, and am willing to be open about it. Because I prefer the mods starting from this knowledge when going after hints than if they suspend us, and then get our replies and find that to be reasonable.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 22:54:34 |
Harmony
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Do you mean that all members GN are NONO's alts? Based on what I was told, yes. Moderation team is taking great care to double check with each player to make sure if he's a unique player or not. If any additional unique players will be discovered, nothing bad will happen to them. I specifically asked if these 3 clans: FTW!, Good News and Really Right are the same person. I was confirmed that to be the case. To me it doesn't look like there's any uncertainty. At the moment other things related to NONO are being looked at and at some point he should receive some sort of punishment, because the evidence is sheer. We're certain that NONO broke at least 1 Warzone rule. I think that NONO thought he was too smart to get caught and made that recruitment thread to get others to think that he got legit players to join his clan. Maybe some normal players have joined Good News, but at the current time, no unique players have been found within their clan.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-16 23:20:28 |
Norman
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On the one hand M'Hunters has a strict no snitching policy but on the other hand, just for the giggles. Here are the CL rules: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oVI29Qupn9jqAZ1eBbzvewCjzlDTZZsdBkYLAOy6crs/edit#gid=1391275813It clearly states there: "All Alts must be announced to (ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! via Warzone Mail with their Main Account and the used Alternative Account (Alt) in this Clan League Season." The alts are listed in this tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oVI29Qupn9jqAZ1eBbzvewCjzlDTZZsdBkYLAOy6crs/edit#gid=569021113I can not find Eternity there. Maybe the clan league organizers might want to look into that (alleged) cheating incident.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 00:15:19 |
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Would you like to elaborate further on FTW and The Last Alliance relationship? Why are you so desperate for a conspiracy 😆 It's against the rules to use multiple accounts in the same CW season. It's as simple as that. No need to get philosophical. That, Eternity, is the main point here. You've presented your well-researched evidence, and you have said the mods are doing their thing. My word of advice would be: you've already spent so much time on this, and the main claim is being actioned - don't bother arguing against every. single. claim. of. every. single. person. just because you need to be right. From experience, it's not worth it 🤣
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 00:57:00 |
Harmony
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Why are you so desperate for a conspiracy There is no conspiracy, at the same time I reached out for a comment to make sure that correct information was presented in this thread. I was previously told by a mod that all accounts in FTW/GN are alts, so today I had multiple conversations with a mod to confirm if the initially available information was correct. You've presented your well-researched evidence, and you have said the mods are doing their thing I'm doing my own thing too. I have been actively helping mods to find potentially suspicious activity. I have looked through a number of games, tournament and clans. I only responded to topics related to FTW/GN situation. Previously there were issues with proving NONO's involvement with a Clan Wars rigging scheme, so this thread was made to raise awareness and potentially gather more data on NONO's activities. Going forward there should be less need to talk as I think all the related things have been already discussed. I should respond to NONO if he makes any posts and then probably make another message when investigation is over.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 06:54:51 |
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at this point I no longer know what's happening and just want ftw/gn to be banned which clearly should happen
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 15:13:34 |
FiveSmith
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at this point I no longer know what's happening and just want ftw/gn to be banned which clearly should happen Probably the alts should be banned, but I would advocate against banning NONO himself (and other main accounts). He is still a famous member of the community, and there is still no community consensus of how harmful his CW rigs are. My personal opinion, is that except that one time, when he got to top-9 and stripped another clan of ranked rewards, the increase of CW activity was generally a community benefit. Plain banning him not only does not compensate for missed rewards/opportunities, but also *on average* negatively affect the length of the too long 4-week CW seasons. (imho, getting less rewards more often is better that getting higher rewards with downtime) Maybe if he would be allowed 1) to repent and 2) to repay the winnings to that clan, he should be forgiven and sent to CW probation.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 16:49:34 |
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Dear 5Smith & 6Baker, thanks for your super kind and extra hypocritical suggestion. But: Motion defeated. I'm not a man to repent.
In order to move this shabby little dramolett here to a higher level, I'm gonna disband the FTW empire. Finally it is my turn to NUKE A CLAN, har har! Bad ass NONO unleashed!
Of course it has to happen in style. And most importantly with proper musical entertainment. So sit back, relax, don't chew your popcorn like unwashed barbarians ... and enjoy the show. This will take some time and some posts, as there are quite a few clan mates and friends wanting to get on stage and wave goodbye to ya. So please, mods, bear with us. Thanks.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 16:50:36 |
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What better curtain raiser could there be for starts than this: NONO and ROBBIE say hi: https://youtu.be/ymPu2PdLW3I
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 16:52:08 |
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Dear CW bloodhound audience, intermediate stage applause and gestures of admiration - aaaahs and ooohs and WOWs are allowed. SO feel free to grunt in between, walrusses, squirrles and rascals.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 17:00:08 |
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Dorabella, one of Mozarts wonderfully cheating little (Mezzo-) Soprano bitches is a bit heartbroken and has qualms about her lover clan being gone, but soon enough she will find soace in the arms of some other clan. Now listen to wonderful Marianne Crebassa performing at Slazburg Opera Festival. https://youtu.be/aFEbYojLFPM"Smanie implacabili che m’agitate dentro quest’anima più non cessate finché l’angoscia mi fa morir. Esempio misero d’amor funesto darò all’Eumenidi se viva resto col suono orribile de’ miei sospir." Wave, wave, good bye FTW.
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Evidence of FTW and GN Using Alts and Rigging CW: 2023-08-17 17:11:43 |
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Bessie Smith got the Blues. FTW was a great place. Much better than Goddam Mississippi for persons of color in the 1920s. Now listen to the empress of Blues. Special dedication to L4v.R0v, and TexxEternity, those ToS breaking WZ API hacking snoop dog: 'Tain't nobody's business if I do, do, do do" https://youtu.be/_AJwEFyWOzA"There ain't nothing I can do, or nothing I can say That folks don't criticize me But I'm goin' to do just as I want to anyway And don't care if they all despise me If I should take a notion To jump into the ocean 'Tain't nobody's business if I do, do, do do"
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