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Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 10:00:08

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If you plug in tournament ids 54000 to 56000 into https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=id you get to see internal Harmony (the clan) tournaments and the ones Harmony (the player) made. Chat messages Harmony (the player) said imply the ones he created are official internal clan tournaments.

The titling style is different enough for me to distinguish them as official and unofficial, with intent to trick others into believing they are official. But someone could easily not see the distinction between the two.

I’ll give a proper breakdown in the next few days.

Edited 4/7/2024 10:11:58
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 10:08:49


Cicero_ 
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This is the most absurd thread I have seen here ever.

Harmony clan doesnt appreciate a great trainer and recruiter, the most difficult thing to find here.

Harmony (player) just move on, go to another clan and do the same u are doing, u will be welcome everywhere except the place u want to be. Why u need to act like a teenager during so long?
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 10:18:24


Ralph 
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@Min34 I think alex will do a great job at finding a trainer for 101st, but he might need some help. Do you have any recommendations?
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 10:20:04


7ate9 
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It was months ago that I sent 2 links to either harmony chat or discord, can't remember,
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=45720
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=54866
and i told them i'm betting all i've got that eternity is phakh purely based on the chat of the tournaments.

very glad to see lets fight confirming that.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 14:01:06


Harmony 
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Eternity is adamant that he will continue to gaslight the WZ community about his role in his former Clan.

  • All the achievements I've mentioned were true.
  • At the moment if I speak to anyone outside of Harmony clan, it's likely ~99% for recruitment purposes.


But as his interference is mostly innocuous - (Does anybody really care if he wants to write a strategy guide about Clan Wars?

Our players care about it. Stop being dismissive towards the needs of our community. All of my work is meant to support our community and is done based on Harmony player requests.

This thread was, apparently, an attempt to "bury the hatchet".

If you really wanted to do so, you would have done so in private. I have left Harmony management in peace. Those managers who have asked to not be contacted by me are left alone by me. During last month I only spoke to managers three times. Once regarding one particular recruit. Second time regarding me rejoining Harmony clan officially so I could play some games in Clan League. Third time was related to Harmony Player Experience survey.

Usually it's Harmony management who are doing something against me. If they want to achieve peace, they should just stop going after me. I do not go out of my way to go attack Harmony management. I keep my activities between me and Harmony community. I do not tell Harmony management what they should or shouldn't do. I respect their contributions to Harmony clan.


The titling style is different enough for me to distinguish them as official and unofficial, with intent to trick others into believing they are official. But someone could easily not see the distinction between the two.

The naming scheme for my tournaments was chosen during late August of 2023, while I was still "officially" part of Harmony Clan and I stuck with the same naming scheme ever since.


Harmony (player) just move on, go to another clan and do the same u are doing, u will be welcome everywhere except the place u want to be.

I am welcome in Harmony community. Based on my estimations, only ~15 different Harmony players have various problems with me and I do not invite those players to my games/tournaments and don't send them mail. Among remaining ~375 players my support is overwhelmingly positive. I interact with many Harmony players on regular basis and have been thanked by them in private many times.

There are no issues between me and Harmony Community. Only Harmony management is specifically opposed to my actions.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 14:03:12


old yeller 
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wartog you're a liar, you said you couldn't couldn't past 3 and here you are counting to 195, 200.
i don't know if i can every trust you again.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 14:24:21


LND 
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@JK here's the TLDR:
Harmony Management: Hey everyone we just want to say that Eternity is doing stuff under Harmony's name and while we can't stop him, we want you to know he's not official and was kicked for a reason.
Eternity: I was bullied out of Harmony by the management but despite being a victim I will selflessly continue to serve the Harmony community while pretending I'm still a part of this clan.
everyone else has one of three responses:
1. Eternity is Phakh Gokhn returned,
2. *eats popcorn*, or
3. something totally unrelated to the topic

Edited 4/7/2024 14:24:53
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 15:49:33


Norman 
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I am so glad we kept the Phakh drama internal :D

2 questions:

What did Phakh do in HAWKS?

If Eternity / Harmony is Phakh, is this against CL rules that he didn't disclose this alt?
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 15:50:34


Norman 
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Or in other words: Is Harmony the new NONO?
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 18:59:55


FiveSmith 
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Ok, so here is the list of questions, which we all seek to be answered:

- What is the Harmony's "Harmony Blog"?

- May anyone show the game breakdowns guides?

- What are the results of the "Harmony Player Survey"?

- What was the attempted bribe from Harmony management?

- What happened in the 2v2 Volcano Island game with Eternity/Harmony and Bodski?

- What is the connection between Eternity/Harmony and Phakh Gokhn? (Would like someone to post a detailed explanation on this, instead of just 1-line statements)

- The findings of DanWL?

- How many NONO's alt accounts are there in Harmony and Road to Harmony clans?

PS. If anyone would be willing to share the answers and/or evidence in a private manner, please, kindly do. If you want, I will promise to not redistribute it, unless I get the same stuff from public sources.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 20:07:52


old yeller 
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you know me a bit 5s, if i had answers to any of these questions (i never got the survey and think the “bribe” is not real unless they’re talking about my offer to give eternity my clan, ccc) i’d share.
there’s no connection between eternity and phakh, it’s just hopes and dreams.
can we move on from this? shit happens and it will continue to. from what i know current harmony management is past all this. not sure what the point is anymore.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 20:13:56


7ate9 
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The real winner out here is harmony (the clan) having someone provide unsolicited and unpaid support in multiple ways without having the obligation to tolerate the drawbacks of giving them manager rights. 5D chess.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 20:35:37


Harmony 
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What is the Harmony's "Harmony Blog"?

It will be a place where I will put Harmony Clan game reviews. I plan to primary target Clan Wars templates. The reason why I need a blog site is because at the moment I would not be able to post my game reviews to Harmony Clan Forums due to obvious reasons.

May anyone show the game breakdowns guides?

Anything I do is intended exclusively for Harmony Community. If you joined Harmony clan, you would also be eligible to receive game reviews. As long as you're not part of Harmony Community, you should not expect to receive any guides from me.

What are the results of the "Harmony Player Survey"?

The results are not intended to be shared with Warzone public. In short they primarily determined which maps/settings were most popular and in what direction game/tournament creation should be taken.

What was the attempted bribe from Harmony management?

What happened in the 2v2 Volcano Island game with Eternity/Harmony and Bodski?

Currently I see no reason to elaborate further on these. If Harmony management denies that they used underhanded tactics in the past, I will provide further proof then. I hope that Harmony management wishes to keep these topics in the past. As long as Harmony managers act fair in the future, I will assume that they have improved as people and previous events are no longer relevant.

What is the connection between Eternity/Harmony and Phakh Gokhn?

I do not know who Phakh Gokhn is. I know very little about him. I recall some people mentioning him long in the past, but that's about all. Apparently some people have spotted some similarities between me and him, but all of them are coincidences.

The findings of DanWL?

If he says anything new I will address it. As far as I am concerned I do not believe that I've said anything misleading. When I say that I am part of Harmony community, it's a true statement. I already mentioned it before, but all of my work is exclusively done only for Harmony players. I am in contact with various Harmony players on frequent basis and I am on friendly terms with an overwhelming majority of our community.

How many NONO's alt accounts are there in Harmony and Road to Harmony clans?

I do not know. I received reports of some of his alts hiding somewhere, but so far I have seen no suspicious activity taking place.


i never got the survey and think the “bribe” is not real unless they’re talking about my offer to give eternity my clan, ccc

The survey originally was not sent to managers. After I received survey results during mid December I shared them with one of Harmony managers. I expected that manager to share results with whole management team. Recently Bodski has told me that he didn't have survey results, so I copypasted them and sent them to him via mail. At this point Harmony Management should definitely be fully aware of survey results.

I do not know why the first manager didn't share survey results with the rest of management team, I never asked him about it.

When it comes to new clan offer, it was one of the things offered to me, but it was not the only one. There were a few additional attempts made.

can we move on from this? shit happens and it will continue to. from what i know current harmony management is past all this. not sure what the point is anymore.


I wish to continue my work in peace as well. I strongly disagree with claims that "I got nothing to do with Harmony". I believe that my actions speak for themselves. I have made many games/tournaments during last 6 months, spent a lot of time training Harmony players and have recruited many new players for our clan. I am loyal to Harmony Community and am not going to abandon us.

All that Harmony managers need to do is to leave me in peace. I do not wish any harm for them, but if they're going to spread falsehoods like "Harmony (player) is not connected to Harmony Community", I will show up and do fact checking.

The players who join my games/events, do so voluntarily and there's no need for Harmony management to interfere. I take my work seriously and would never try to intentionally make things worse for anyone in our community.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 20:47:54


JK_3 
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195 words. You're welcome.

Thanks Togger ♥


@jk, I dunno what all the noise around it is about, but Alex is looking for trainers for 101st

isn't that what stefano is for? or is this trainer supposed to go train stefano?


wartog you're a liar, you said you couldn't couldn't past 3 and here you are counting to 195, 200.
i don't know if i can every trust you again.

Perhaps he used a calculator this time, or got Texx to count the words for him?
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 21:11:15


Bodski 
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WarTog's hooves tend to mess up his counting.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 21:19:09


WarTog
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Pff! WarTog copy and paste from a $200 bill I had in my piggy bank.
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 21:43:54


stefano36000 
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I'm definitely not a trainer. And hardly worth training :/
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 21:44:49


WarTog
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WarTog think you are worth it, Spyfano

;8)

Edited 4/7/2024 21:54:43
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 22:20:15


stefano36000 
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Bestuzheff : killer beeeee
Dervel: Door Bell
Donald Trump: Donatello
MMIAP: pantaloons
Sapk: bapk
Psinoza: guinoza
Karlstadt : K-Boom
Pletty: Plettypus
Red star: Starboy
Trump 45 47: T-boss
Bodski: ski bunny
5S: five smiff
otto: woffow
Pirtuzogno: pizza-lasagna
Umi: yum yum/umami
stefano36k: Spyfano

Edited 4/7/2024 22:20:38
Eternity and Harmony Clarification: 2024-04-07 22:23:26


old yeller 
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wartog using a calculator is like a pig using a computer.
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