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Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-05 20:00:39


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He's an idiot for ruining his life despite being given one of the best upbringings one could wish for.

I doubt he's any more intelligent than an average doctor/general practitioner. Mangione seems to be the type that adopts beliefs of people he sees as being intelligent and making his own justifications to force himself to believe them. He copies someone else's homework without understanding the context and thought that went into it. He seems to have copied Ted Kaczynski just because Ted is regarded to be intelligent. I don't think Mangione is actually able to understand what Ted is saying.

Just how you can copy off of someone's calculus homework, you can get the answer but not understand how to get the answer. Mangione seems to only believe Ted is intelligent because the answer, socially held belief, is that Ted is intelligent. He's copying off of the smart kid in class. He seems like the person who would disagree with one of your beliefs, but as soon as he learns you're considered 'intelligent,' he would look up to you. This is only possible with him because he can't tell what is intelligent without being told.

Many people's belief about someone being intelligent doesn't come from understanding that person's capabilities. It comes from being told by other people.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-06 01:21:42


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no debate to be had, killing is wrong. people who say he shouldve been killed, ask if they like to be killed, and they will realize quickly why it's not okay. the death penalty can be considered uncivilized, but an execution without judge and jury? that's primal, what chimpanzees do
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-06 05:18:04


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The only people I can see being ok with Mangione murdering the CEO is a specific population who are infatuated with his looks. And there was a good reason why this specific population's opinions were not taken seriously for thousands of years because you get things likes this.

The healthcare system shouldn't even exist in the first place. These people are only mad because they've made themselves dependent on the medical system and things are expensive. These are the people getting medication to help with preventable diseases such as diabetes, cancers, and depression. The only people supporting Mangione's actions are communist-leaning types or people who've made themselves medically dependent.

The healthcare system gives no cures at all, despite some already existing but will tell you that it is not healthy. They only give you treatments. Doctors cannot cure anything because they're not allowed to.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-10 17:41:00


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Luigi murdered a murderer (allegedly).

From what I have read about him, he is likely smarter than most of us here. He knew what he was doing, and he thought it was worth it.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-12 19:13:55

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Some thoughts of this, from someone who's studied revolutions (the good and the bad):

The political establishment is finished, both in Europe and in the US. Whatever the dominant political system in current "Western" states will be in 20 years, I doubt it will be the same it has been for the past 50 years. Class struggle is real, and the super-rich won. Took them decades to buy control of politics and media, but it is obvious the process is nearly complete.

Elect whatever party you like, the super-rich come out on top. Read whatever (major) newspaper you like, the news will be brought to you by the richest and biased in favor of the richest (9 out of the 10 largest German newspapers are owned or otherwise controlled by the 0.01%).

Common folks are starting to realize they are scammed, because their quality of life goes down, not up. They know their opinion has no influence whatsoever on political decisions. If you need proof for that, read this:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B/S1537592714001595a.pdf/testing_theories_of_american_politics_elites_interest_groups_and_average_citizens.pdf
It's not just the US, it's happening in countries like Germany too.

So common folks revolt and vote for "outsiders", mostly from the far right because the far right offers the simplest solutions: Kick out immigrants, and everything will be fine. Deny trans people healthcare (and basic human rights), and you'll have to pay less for yours. The far right knows how to present these groups as "lightening rods" for public anger.

Once the far right is in power they might get by for a couple years ostracizing one group after the other, but they'll still be subservient to big money, doing everything in their power to make insanely rich billionaires even richer. The "money pump" sucking from poor and middle class to give to the richest keeps running. So common folks get even poorer.

The far right's hold on power will be anything but secure once people realize far-right policies make their lives even worse. That's why the far right will do anything in their power to keep them dis-informed and suppressed. The billionaire clique will offer support, be it in form of money, controlled press coverage and tweaked social media algorithms.

And there's climate breakdown. It's real. It's bad. It's 100% caused by humans. And it's going to get a lot worse in the near future. I have seen the latest data, and there is no way to keep heating below 2°C. We're heading for peak civilization, when there is no longer enough time to rebuild between ever-more-frequent and ever-more-devastating disasters, be it floods or droughts or fires.

Lots of instability ahead.

I propose transitioning to a new form of democracy that is a hybrid of elections and drawing people by lot in order to giver everyone a say, not just the 0.01% who run the system now. The alternative is fascism, and - as history tells us - fascism sucks.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-12 19:57:08

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What Mangione did reminds me of what happened between 1880-1930 when Anarchists targeted Royals and Capitalists. It's an old concept called "propaganda by the deed". Only back then the targets were not so universally loathed, which means public sympathy for the assassins was rather limited.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-12 20:24:31


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The insurance leader didn't get killed. It's a lie. But I can't get into details.
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-12 21:48:02


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The insurance leader didn't get killed. It's a lie. But I can't get into details.


This promptly reminded me of this old video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OIXfkXEj0
Thoughts on Luigi Mangione?: 2025-01-12 23:03:09

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Oh. Thought Alex Jones only makes up right-wing stuff ("crisis actors" for parents of dead kids f. ex.)?
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