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Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 03:52:45


Thomas 633
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no you proved that several posts ago, I merely provided a nice massive example
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 10:39:49


Lawlz
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You're a moron, I provided no time frame, merely the fact that you did. If I had said "Thomas was the first to shitpost" then you'd be right.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 10:57:12


master of desaster 
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It sucks badly that i have to read that shit in every post i try to follow. Thomas/clit/bane/lawlz you commentate so much and nobody cares. What about thinking first if that what you're saying is really interesting or actually funny for others who might read it.

Edit: almost forgot poonsquad or whatever they're called

Edited 3/25/2015 11:08:35
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 10:58:28


Thomas 633
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I know I used a scene from MASH, but that is a bit harsh...
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 11:03:26


Lawlz
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Thanks for telling me what I already know mod, but maybe Thomas will get the point eventually.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 11:04:34


Thomas 633
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*gives handy advice on where lawlz can stick her point*
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 12:52:32


slammy 
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+1 mod. It literally took like 3 people to ruin the whole forum.

Chris I think if you can find a decent way to deal with the above type of stuff, and have a better search function, we'll be most of the way there.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 13:29:00


Addy the Dog 
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my vision for the warlight forum:



what do you think, sirs?
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 13:33:18


AbsolutelyEthan 
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nu-uh
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 14:55:21


slammy 
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is that the inside of your eyelids? because that's pretty much what i've been seeing.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 14:59:27


slammy 
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Thanks for telling me what I already know mod, but maybe Thomas will get the point eventually.


lawlz lacking self-awareness as always. how do you not see that you are part of the problem, not the solution? the trolls fire off 20 comments and you respond 21 times.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 15:45:35


ChrisCMU 
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+1 mod. It literally took like 3 people to ruin the whole forum.

Chris I think if you can find a decent way to deal with the above type of stuff, and have a better search function, we'll be most of the way there.


Yeah, if an important thread doesn't get buried, they instead get trashed by trolls. And I'm sorry, but there are more important threads. For example, the discussions on open tournaments, a discussion on ladder mechanics, etc. All those are far more important than 10 threads about royal falcons/lost wolves, white facist forums, the dozens of threads that are just people posting a random you tube link, etc.

While I think the boards should be supply and demand driven (why sticky something nobody cares about), this spamming the forums is a huge issue. If we could combine threads, that would help a lot. Another thing that would help a lot is have the top 'X' amount of threads from each forums shown (I have suggested this many times). I am in a clan, but many people are not. Why should the 'ALL Forums' show them a dozen clan threads on the first page?

Slammy - I have no idea what you mean by me find a way. Outside of Fizzer/Mercer saying they are receptive to some forum changes, everything is a waste of time. And since I have no idea what framework they are using here, I couldn't even mock something up if I wanted to.

Edited 3/25/2015 15:46:42
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 17:23:24


slammy 
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how about every week the warlight community votes to banish one player forever?
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 17:37:55


Odin 
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That has been tried in ancient Athens already. Every year, the free men of Athens could vote for one person to be banished from the city state for 10 years. They would write the name of that individual on a clay plate (ostrakismos), and the person getting most votes would be banished.

A common complaint was that only in rare cases would the worst criminals and offenders of Athens get banished. In most cases, it were the most popular and accomplished citizens that got voted out. Why? Envy.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 17:41:52


[WOLF] Arrogance
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Yeah, then probably someone like Thomas, Lawlz, Bane or some other forum troll like Pooncrew would get voted but then after all trolls are gone perhaps someone would banish a player ChrisCMU who is offended by trolls...
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 18:30:16


Des {TJC}
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Your name says it all.

Honestly, I just read through this entire block of forum. And I predicted to myself on Page one before Thomas, Bane, Clit, or Lawlz even commented that Thomas was gonna say something that sparks Lawlz to post, and then Clit/Bane post along with it.

Now, if Chris has the opportunity to remove those idiotic posts before a large group of people read them, judge the thread, and then move on. Maybe something major might happen. I support Chris and all that he wants to do. I just hope it gets implemented.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 19:02:51


ChrisCMU 
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Just to be clear, in my imaginary world where I have these tools, I would split out the shitstorm name calling into a separate thread and let this discussion continue without the name calling spat. But that is because their spat has nothing to do with the topic at all.

I think Thomas was fine to post this:


I am just sick of you thinking your threads are sooo much more important than mine just because mine don't directly relate to warlight, you think that makes me a dick and you absolutely amazing


But then after Lawlz baits him the whole thread gets ruined. Up until then, Thomas was making legit points (about what is deemed important on the boards). We may disagree on this, but he's right to argue his point. Where the discussion goes awry is the personal attacks.

On my boards I am admin on, my procedures would be:
1) Start a new thread titled something like "Lawlz/Thomas argument"
2) post a link back to the thread it was split from
3) move all derailed posts to that new thread
4) post in this thread that the argument was moved to the new location.
...Now the thread should still be on track and they can bicker over who contributes more to the forums.

The key to successful moderation is to be transparent in all actions taken and allow arguments that don't derail important topics (if they do, move them). It is about facilitating dialog, not ending it.

Edited 3/25/2015 19:07:41
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 19:07:34


Min34 
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it's been relatively quiet of trolls lately actually. i remember forums being much worse some 6 months ago or so. moderators and thread locking already exists afaik though.


Half a page later the thread is only trolls.... I think they are quite active ;)


@Chris, although most of these things would be nice to have, they are not urgent imo. There are other insignificant things to the gameplay that I would like to see changed.

PS: But if I could block users, so that their post are just like they are in gamechats when somebody is blacklisted, I would be so happey

EDIT:
I think Thomas was fine to post this:

I am just sick of you thinking your threads are sooo much more important than mine just because mine don't directly relate to warlight, you think that makes me a dick and you absolutely amazing



But then after Lawlz baits him the whole thread gets ruined. Up until then, Thomas was making legit points (about what is deemed important on the boards). We may disagree on this, but he's right to argue his point. Where the discussion goes awry is the personal attacks.


Yeah, they can make sense, but I`m pretty sure that those aren`t the posts most people are sick of. The post where everybody does nothing else but "fight" or annoy eachother are what irritates most players (or at least me)

Edited 3/25/2015 19:10:59
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 19:10:40


ChrisCMU 
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Min, you make the same point as ps. I'm not saying Fizzer should do this instead of fixing tournament filters or other things people want. What I am saying is allow people to help him here. Start a dialog with some good active posters on here, get a feel for what is needed. Then either allow them to test (outside real forums) these changes, or simply wait for down time to work on it himself. But right now, it seems like it really isn't an issue at all to Fizzer. If that is the case, just tell us. Let us know the boards will remain like this and he will only deal with inappropriate content and for us to just live with it.
Forum overhaul suggestions: 2015-03-25 19:13:30


Min34 
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I understand I`m making the same point. Its unfortunatly also how more players will feel I`m afraid. I do think that allowing players to help Fizzer would be a good idea, even if its just for the forums. But thats Fizzers decision, not ours.

BTW, I thought there were Forummods for a while, are they still active or have they been disbanned?

Edited 3/25/2015 19:13:50
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