Rather than arguing about a controversial topic we'll probably never resolve, let's aruge about a different one: Nazism, Is it bad?

with or without the racism?

I'll have nazism with the racism on the side, hold the genocide.

lawlz you're a complete idiot.

Edited before a flame war starts

Edited 4/12/2015 22:54:59

Facism was great.... but then the Fire Nation Attacked....

Nazism is a crime against humanity. It's an ideology that says people should be treated as sub-human for how they're born - their race, being gay, gypsy, disabled, mentally ill... Things people cannot change and never chose. I think, instead, we should consider nazis sub-human for their backwards ideology that says we should construct a society with the intention of causing suffering to innocent people rather than help them. In addition it has a disgusting and robotic view of women as machines who should work in kitchens, take care of children, stay in church and leave men in charge. I think women should be considered as equals, they're as capable of having feelings as all other humans and their well-being is no less important (...hopefully obvious to most people). I don't have any sympathy for all the christianity "God with us" on soldier's belts and banning of books of evolution by the nazis either.
Their pseudo-Keynesian economic policies had some success compared to their situation, were short-sighted but worked better than the classical monetarist capitalism in the situation, I'll give them that as the only plus. Of course that's not a very big plus, when they then burn it all off on causing an immensely greater amount of destruction and fortunately failed spectacularly.

The amount of destruction nazism has caused in Europe is disgraceful. Nazism was a crazy set of ideas growing out of a terrible (and also unfair) economic situation in Germany where it was forced to pay way more than they should and could, combined with a deep international crisis in capitalism, no doubt about that, but that will never justify the crimes of nazism, and the ideology is a poison to this planet that should be fought by the sword.

Also if you take racism away from nazism it's no longer nazism, it's a brand of fascism. Hitler created nazism as an inherently racist ideology and it should be dealt with as such in my opinion.

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Whoah dude, chill. It was just a joke to try to relieve some of the pressure. It's obvious Nazism is horrible.

I support the Axis in world War 2. Not the nazis, because in such a case I'd support the Germans.

Axis were products of their environment, and frankly the capitalists are to blame for setting in motion this course of events. But despite the nazis taking over Poland, central Europe and France, one must remember the nazis first invaded Germany. And honestly, twas the Germans who fought Hitler's battles, because militarily the nazis had no power. The true Germans, like rommel, fought for Germany after its fall. This coming from a polak.

Efit: typo

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^If that's true, then why couldn't Germany invade the UK or the USSR?

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Germany did invade the USSR ....... but it didn't go so well

Efit: typo

That's the best XD you made a typo trying to spell edit and it seems like you're giving up because it actually says Efit. Like fuck it.

Apart from the genocide, Nazis generally did a lot of good for Germany.
At least they kept their election campaign promises which is more than can be said for any Western politicians nowadays.

Apart from the genocide, Nazis generally did a lot of good for Germany.

Bin Laden pls

So the answers to American problems are found in Nazi Germany?....... Canada get over here! *stares at Mexico*......you're next........

Germans were much better off under Hitler... that's why they voted for him.

And the fact that Hitler appealed to their feelings to follow him. Told them they were poor (they were) told them it was allies fault (stupid ww1 treaty) somehow told them jews were evil ( who the fuck beloved that?) Told the peole they were a supporior race ( another lie to appeal to them) and some other stuff.

Anti-Semitism was a means to an end for Hitler, not the end itself.

Actually, we should directly thank America for the Marshall plan that made Germany what it is. However, thank nazis for necessitating Marshall plan. But, thank ww1 for nazis. See where I'm going?

Germany couldn't invade uk due to supplies directed to the north African Theatre as well as a failure at sea and a draw in the air (technically).

Germans couldn't get Russia due to unbelievable expectations, terrible winter and overstretched supply lines.

People think ww2 was bound to fail for Germany, but it was really just that they played like dead piggy when they should've played like sze.

Hitler attacking it's ally russia to gain moral was stupid.

There wasn't really any political or economic reason that the Germans couldn't successfully invade uk or ussr. Both were strict democratic capitalism and totalitarianism "communism" respectively.