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Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 11:46:44


cockroach .'/\'.
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Game Settings:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8679652

according to analyzing grapf, if we attack 2 defending armies with 1 attacking army, 1 attackign army dies for sure, but there are 50% chances that 1 out of 2 defending armies gets killed.

right? if not, is there is some problem with that grapf?

PS: sry i should have posted this in ''help'' one.

Edited 5/13/2015 11:49:16
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 12:02:35


Richard Sharpe 
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You do realize that no one can see said analyze graph, right?

0% SR with standard kill ratios means that 1 defender dies when attacked by 1 army. It even tells you as much in the attack/transfer dialog.
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 12:56:56


cockroach .'/\'.
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nobody can see that grapfh in that game, really?
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 13:41:47


Sephiroth
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you can do the maths yourself when you find the graph isn't clear enough



i guess this is the graph you are talking about.
From the game settings, you know the game is 0% sr, which means that there's no luck and decimals are always rounded to the nearest integer.

attacking with 1 army you kill 1*0.6 = 0.6 armies, which gets rounded to 1 (so you see in the graph with x=1 y=0.6)

i really don't understand which was your doubt
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 14:17:23

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Graphs are easier to understand if you know the combat basics (https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Combat_basics). There's 100% chance of rounding up and a 0% chance of rounding down, due to straight round.

Edited 5/13/2015 14:19:17
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 14:19:12


Richard Sharpe 
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Nobody can see the graph of your specific attack to explain it. Sure, they can look at the generic graph as Sephiroth posted but that is rather meaningless without also knowing the number of defending and attacking armies.

As for understanding it, Sephiroth lays it out pretty clearly. 0% SR is simple mathematics. Multiply by kill rate and round accordingly.

Edited 5/13/2015 14:21:18
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 14:46:08


cockroach .'/\'.
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''you can do the maths yourself when you find the graph isn't clear enough''

should not Graphs do maths for us? according to settings they should adapt and do round up round down automatically.


i think graphs system needs an update.

Edited 5/13/2015 14:48:06
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 14:49:52


Timinator • apex 
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i think your brain needs an update
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 15:03:46


cockroach .'/\'.
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what's so offensive in what i said ?
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 15:17:14

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Nothing is offensive. I think Timinator is trying to imply that your idea of "Graphs do maths for us" obviously won't happen and trying to point out that "Graphs do maths for us" is stupid because graphs can't tell you how many armies there will be if you abandon / blockaid or calculate your opponents' income.
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 18:01:15


҈ * TeeMee123҈ *
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how is that guy such a high level when he doesn't get this...
Analyzing Grapf confused me. why ?: 2015-05-13 18:07:06

Hennns
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You do realize that no one can see said analyze graph, right?
you can, same as for every other game. Manu->analyze attack

also just because we're used to it being that way doesn't mean it can't be improved, it's not the most important thing ofc. Still, it doesn't take many games before you'll *know* how the different settings work, but it'd be nice to have to visual graph be more accurate.
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