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Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 00:05:03


ChrisCMU 
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Beren - we thought about that last time, but then you run into issues with clans that are basically the same people running them (like Lynx/101st). We just did Division A last time. It would need to be changed by a vote of the committee if we wanted that.

BTW, the committee is:
ChrisCMU
Master Miyagi • apex
Apollo
[WM] ᵀᴴᴱAlterEgoist
Pushover

Not sure if Fridge (AlterEgoist) is going to help out again or not. If not, we may add someone else to the committee. The committe votes on things like suspending people for using alts/cheating, changing the rules, etc.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 00:40:03


Master Turtle 
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I would be willing to join the committe but I don't know if I am the best choice or if its right to have 3 masters on it.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 02:40:23


almosttricky 
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SNinja will participate again. I will keep score for D if we end up moving there.

Edited 6/4/2015 02:41:54
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 03:11:38


Dr. Stupid 
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LEA would definitely like to participate.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 05:13:27


Jefferspin 
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Blitz will participate
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 10:44:39


[WM] Gnuffone 
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[WM] are out next season.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 11:46:20

Memele 
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REGL will take part in, I don't now if in group B or C, but we will :P
I don't mind helping with score for our group if needed.

By the way, I think that B/C groups had less teams and one in B is not joining so the promotion/relegations will cange at the end?
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 14:50:34


ChrisCMU 
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Yes, we will have to probably promote extra if we have empty slots
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 15:22:46


Φιλώτας 
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The G-spot will participate with twelve members at least, also proposition for the 3vs3

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=609819
Peloponnesian war 3x4 straight round 0% cards random warlords distribution from the tournament:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=13778

and Rise of Rome 5x7 straight round0% full distribution no cards
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=533623

Question: In which division will we participate?
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 17:15:21


Master Turtle 
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@Glamorous
You start at the lowest division and work your way up.... So that will probably be Group D or Group E?
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 17:43:22

Jaymer
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Why not vote on templates and ask for lineups before season 6 finishes? Then when season 6 finishes, all you have to do is create the scoring sheets and tournaments. Boom, done. We start like a week after season 6 finishes.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 17:53:41


Hades 
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Alright cool, I'm with you now
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:16:31


Master Turtle 
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@Jaymer

That is what we are doing....

Its also what was said in the 1st post.

Edit: We have to wait for Season 6 to end before voting because only Group A gets to vote. So we must wait to see who is and isn't in Group A..... But otherwise we try and have stuff ready for next season.

Edited 6/4/2015 18:17:49
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:23:13


Waka 
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@Jaymer that is easier said then done since last season the last ongoing game was a decider of the 5th and 6th spot in group A i think and after that they just had to start the full process and that took some time longer then expected as well i think.

@Chris: just put Lolo for the spreadsheet, in case he really doesn't want to make it then I will take it over
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:28:11

Jaymer
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Right, as was said in the 1st post, and in a later post by Chris, you wait until the end of the season to vote on templates. And you can't submit lineups until you know the templates. That's why Chris estimates 1-2 months after the end of season 6.

But if you let Group A vote on templates now, then you can also ask for lineups before season 6 ends, and we start a lot sooner. Then whoever ends up in Group A for season 7 will vote for templates for season 8, and so on...

It's only a little unfair this season because the current Group A already got to vote for this season's templates, and now they'd get to vote for next season's templates too; but from the next season on, it would be fair.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:39:27


Waka 
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problem with that is that the 2nd relegation spot from group A isn't confirmed yet so there can be multiple clans that are still able to relegate so you got the problem that have multiple scenario's that are able to unfold by the voting
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:47:47

Jaymer
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Maybe I'm not making myself clear. Group A for season 6 IS decided. It was decided at the end of last season, and they're playing right now. I'm saying we let them vote for season 7, and whoever ends up in Group A at the end of this season can vote for season 8.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 18:53:21


Deadman 
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I like Jaymer's proposal. Although that would mean Blitz and Lynx would need to wait another season before they get to vote.
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 19:10:58


Waka 
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another downside of this is that WM is dropping out of the league so i don't think it would be smart to give them actually a vote if you would do it that way now
Clan league 7 - preperation thread: 2015-06-04 23:25:43


Master Ree 
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With Jaymer's idea you do cut down on start times. It's similar to the voting for Olympic Games in that they vote on the future ones way in advance to start planning for it early. Since the lineups are going to be the same regardless of Group, you could have the lineups for the next season BEFORE the current season starts (ie. if Clan League 6 finished on, for example, July 22nd, Clan League 7 could start July 23rd). It would definitely speed up the process and wait time.

The downside like MotD and wakanarai said is that those participating might not be in Group A for the season they voted. In the case of MotD, you forget that Lynx and Blitz would be voting for League 7 (the current) AND League 8, so in reality they would get an extra vote not lose votes. In the case of wakanarai, if you make it to Group A, you are obviously skilled enough to know a bad template from a good one; that combined with the fact that no one can predict if their clan will be unable to participate that far in advance, you won't get any rigging (also since its votes) and/or collaborative rigging. While true it may be that WM should not get to vote, for one league is it that big a deal?

@ChrisCMU - I have experience running leagues, standings, scores, etc. (it's actually my job!) so I can do one or multiple Groups.

EDIT: The real problem only arises if a new template comes up during league play, it would take finishing that one, and the next one before there is a possibility of implementing it.

Edited 6/4/2015 23:28:31
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