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US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 16:28:14


berdan131
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A stupid folk needs strong hand.

Btw I mean not disrespect, someone consequently made this folk stupid who has an interest in stupid, obedient people who will accept all decisions. :/

Remember US is the biggest terrorist in the world.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 17:09:52

JSA 
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How many people are killed by police that did not break any law before they were killed? Even in the example you mentioned, the two men were running from the cops. It sounds to me like if they would have been law-abiding citizens and would have simply pulled over, they would have been fine. Don't get me wrong; I think the US police force does use lethal force more than is necessary, and I think any reasonable person would say the same. But I think that if you don't break a major law, you have nothing to worry about from the police.

The biggest issue with the US police force is how people become officers. In my part of the country, the people who usually go on to become policemen are the ones who get poor grades in school, are spoiled, and would likely end up working a minimum wage or close to minimum wage job if they were not policemen. The only way to really solve the police problem in the US is to pay police more and raise the standards on getting in, so that more able citizens will want to become policemen.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 18:08:15


Beren Erchamion 
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I don't really agree with your first paragraph, JSA. This woman didn't do anything illegal, and still ended up getting tased for no reason. Admittedly that is a lower form of assault than shooting someone with a gun, but it is an example of a law enforcement officer assaulting a law abiding person for no reason.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/border-patrol-agents-tase-an-unarmed-woman-inside-the-us/394073/

However, I do agree wholeheartedly with your second point.

Edited 6/19/2015 18:08:24
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 18:09:48


Eklipse
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Remember US is the biggest terrorist in the world.

If the U.S screams "Praise the Lord" and than drops planes into buildings to kill your civilians you'll have the right to say that.

As for the issue on topic: Is the U.S police excessive at times? Yes, but one must also consider what they're dealing with. Most of the time police shootings occur in major cities, and many of America's major cities are riddled with street gangs,drug dealers, and a whole assortment of other criminals who don't hesitate to murder cops. People put into a dangerous environment like that will be a lot more likely to shoot when threatened.

As many others have said: If you actually follow the laws and don't anything to attract the attention of the police you'll be fine 99% of the time.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 18:13:07


Beren Erchamion 
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@Eklipse, terrorism has nothing to do with screaming "Praise the Lord". It is literally the act of fighting a conflict by terrorizing a civilian population. I don't really see how drone strikes fail to meet that standard.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/04/living-in-terror-under-a-drone-filled-sky-in-yemen/275373/

Edited 6/19/2015 18:13:30
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 18:16:18


Eklipse
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It is literally the act of fighting a conflict by terrorizing a civilian population. I don't really see how drone strikes fail to meet that standard.

It's not terrorism if civilians aren't the intended target. When civilians die in operations intended for a military target it's collateral damage. Collateral damage is still a very bad thing, but it's not on the same level as terrorism.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 18:36:14

JSA 
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Beren, one instance of an innocent person being tased doesn't bother me. I think it is a huge mistake on the officer's part, but she was not killed, and if 1 in 300 million people (probably a few others have experienced this as well, making it more 1 in 100 million people) is tased even though they did not break a law, it is not such a big deal. The officer who tased her should be punished, of course. But it shouldn't worry the average person.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 19:41:19


Beren Erchamion 
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Did you watch the video? For me it wasn't so much that he tased her, it was how calmly he did it. Like he knew that nothing was going to happen to him for it, even though he knew he was being filmed. Oh, and of course no charges have been filed against him.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 19:47:30

JSA 
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It honestly doesn't surprise me that he acted that way. Like I said, some policemen are idiots. I think the big issue is that no charges have been filed against him. He should be fired at the least for something like that.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 20:25:03


Beren Erchamion 
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The issue is that cops who do things like that are almost never charged with a crime, and very rarely even receive any reprimand. That to me is proof that we have some sort of institutional problem. I don't know precisely what the solution is, but I think we do need to at least recognize that there is a problem.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 20:44:56


Ranek
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an example of a law enforcement officer assaulting a law abiding person for no reason.


holy crap, what is wrong with those policemen? I can totally understand why some people seem to hate the police in america! In germany something like that would never happen. The policemen would have been arrested for abuse of office, coercion and mayhem. in my opinion they are retarded and armed maniacs in uniforms.

another isolated lapse:

https://vimeo.com/124336782

Edited 6/19/2015 21:05:19
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 20:45:44

JSA 
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Yes I agree with that. The US media has recognized a problem, but I think they have made it seem like a race problem. The Michael Brown Case was a huge controversy, mostly because the media stirred it up. In that case, Officer Wilson shot Michael Brown in self defense, and the facts back that statement up. Yet the media portrayed Wilson as guilty long before seeing all the evidence. What the media should do is wait until the evidence comes in, and then present that evidence to the people. What they do now leads to uneducated, ignorant people protesting. What the media needs to do is present some cases in which the officer, who should have been found guilty, was found innocent. The media is the most powerful tool for getting things done in the US. What the media says, the people believe, and the lawmakers try to please the people. The media has made the average American realize that there is a problem with the police force, but I have heard very little from the media on how that can change.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 20:56:57

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The Walter Scott shooting is another example of a problem with the US police force. Shooting was completely unnecessary. He has been charged with murder, and I assume he will be found guilty (as he should be). Walter Scott was not a completely innocent man though; he was pulled over, and made a run for it. According to https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/10/why-was-walter-scott-running , he was afraid of going to jail for not paying child support. I don't know if that is true, but he was definitely running for a reason. An innocent man has no reason to run.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 21:03:50


Genghis 
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JSA is right on the money. The media has distorted the truth, and has refused to offer solutions. Because of this, the people suffer.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 21:16:18


Ranek
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I don't know if that is true, but he was definitely running for a reason. An innocent man has no reason to run.


This is such a stupid quote. Jessica A. Cooke had a perfect reason to run, but was tased instead. If somebody runs away, it shouldnt give permission (and hopefully doesnt do either) to shoot him in the back 9 times. this would be hilarious if it woudnt be terrifiing. If the policemen havent been so fat they could easily run after him, instead of killing him. that was so damn unreasonable. If he wants to run because he is afraid for being arrested he has a perfect reason to run, which is no excuse to shoot him! He wasnt going to commit a crime or to threat someone else. He didnt pay his child support? holy shit - let him run and pick him up on another day, at his home.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 21:24:33


berdan131
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@Eklipse

Your argument is funny, as 9/11 was actually conducted by US as a false flag attack ;)
They used explosives to finish off the building so it was planned my friend
But I guess the Jew owned media will not tell you this.

Trusting the government is a big mistake
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 21:32:13


Жұқтыру
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You've gone far...

and to say it with such glee...
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 22:27:55


Darth Darth Binks
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Berdan, I hope you're just a troll passing by.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 22:29:10

JSA 
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Ranek, I said the shooting was completely unnecessary. Read all of what I say next time before skimming it and picking out what you disagree with. I also said that I believe Slager should be charged with murder. I also agree with the fact that policemen should be in better shape.

My point is that Scott was doing something wrong. If he hadn't ran, he would still be alive. I'm not saying that what the officer did was right. In fact, I'm saying he did an awful thing and should be found guilty of murder. But I am saying that if you are an innocent person, you don't have to worry about being shot by police.
US police: 1000 killings per year!: 2015-06-19 23:05:01


Ranek
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JSA I did read all of it and it wasnt meant to be offensive. Most of your and especially berens replies here sound reasonable to me. It is just the quote, which sounds like an excuse. fear makes people act irrational. maybe he was scared, in fact that he was shot afterwards, he may have already been scared by his murder for any reason - no one will ever know. Even though it would be good to know. So I can imagine some scenarios where even innocent people would run.
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