i dont know if this has been discussed before, but y is it allowed to go on vacation on a seasonal? it lasts anyway only a month and then u got 1 game which u cant finish(or more). this is screwing ur rank, or am i totally wrong here?

im not following everything here, so pls turn on the light over my head.

it's possible to have vacations and still finish all the season games.

I agree with you. I mean vacations in seasonal can set you back if you really need the win to grab a few points to get paired up with higher rated people. However, the real problem in the seasonal ladder is people who join, then for some reason end up losing 2-3 games and quit the ladder.
I think when you join the seasonal, you should be forced to play 10-15 games at least, and if a person just joins and then leaves they should be banned from participating in the next 1-3 seasons.

i agree it's annoying when guys quit mid-season. i had seasons where i went against hard opponents early on, got lucky enough to manage a win against them, and they end up surrendering the other games and quitting the ladder, leaving me with a win against a low rating opponent with very high real skill. but i can't agree with banning as a solution. you can't _force_ people to play something when they don't want to or don't have time for it.

the problem as always is that the seasonal ladder should really have more games, but then it would probably run too long.

If they don't have the time and they know they have to play 10-15 games, they won't join it in the first place, it makes no sense to play only 4-5 games in the seasonal ladder.

Edited 7/14/2015 14:49:47

unexpected stuff can happen in your life in 1 month. or some folks simply don't have the foresight to plan that long ahead.

i think ur kinda both right but i think what peixoto said makes more sense. i understand u ps too. but i think if something unexpected happens and u cant play anymore u would screw only urself if the rules would say u have to finish 10-15 games, in that case u have to surrender and thats it. i understand that life is sometimes a bitch but dont drag other ppl in it. with taht rule nobody ELSE gets hurt except only the one who got the problems, but that not my problem and y do i have to suffer for someones problems?

otherwise if u go on vacation or some unexpected shit happens and u quit u screw more ppl and this would be not fair. just compare the relations.

for me its very logic.

y do we have to suffer for somebodies unexpected stuff or quiting because of early looses???????

i just dont get it, y?

it would be so easy to handle the problem but i see that nobody cares that much, except they r in that position.

an easy rule would stop the prblem and nobody has to suffer anymore.

Edited 7/15/2015 09:36:07

and what would you do if the person really needs to go on holiday? force them to get booted on all remaining games? the end result would be similar to them quitting the ladder. i don't see your easy solution rule for preventing this.

Yeah it is better if players leave the ladder when they no longer want to play, rather than just surrendering each game. That would hurt their opponents' ratings even more.

hmmm

Edited 7/15/2015 16:09:52

i really dont know how old u must be that u dont know within 1 month that u gonna go on vacation???

this is really childish.

i mean if u commit to play then do it, if not live with the consequenses.

i still understand u but the relations dont work here for me. u guys protect maybe a small few, but what with the screwed ones.

i understand that ur ratings get hurts no matter what, but i think ppl should get a penalty for doing stuff like that. i like the idea of a ban in the next seasonal.

personal stuff is not an excuse for me ones u commit. thats life. nobody cares about mine, so y should i care??? logic.

my problem r the ppl who get hurt of a few who think they can do whatever they want, even if they commited to play.

i dont get it.

even if u dont like the idea of a ban.

there must be solution for that so ppl dont get pissed.

Edited 7/15/2015 16:28:34

I was one who joined the seasonal and left after a few games. I was really excited to play MA but wasn't sure how it would look with local deployment. Turns out, I didn't like it that much. Not enough to play 20 games of it. So I quit. If the new rule were "minimum of 15 games" i would just surrender my remaining 10ish instead of quitting the ladder so I could play the next season, which I think puts people in a worse position. It's not a time issue at all, I have plenty of time. Also, many people are force joined, which is where you see a lot of people who leave the ladder after a few games.

Well, I guess this could be solved by adding some sort of reliability rating (RR) sytem for the seasonal ladder.
So the reliable players would play the other reliable players in their first batch. As the ladders moves towards the end, the RR would lose it's significance in the pairings.

Edited 7/15/2015 21:32:38

Your best bet is to get the initial games before taking the vacation. then it won't be as bad to catch up (assuming your vacation is not weeks long).