hm saying that there are two types of clans is simplistic.
Yes, a binary simplification of the clan system is simplistic. The question is whether it's useful.
but as you know some clans like role, team games, or a little bit of everything, some are just communities of players who speaks the same lenguage. There are a lot of them that i dont have idea what they do but they are active.
Exactly. I think that the mess is a symptom of the current setup. On one hand, we have clans that have goals- which makes a ton of sense- but they rarely actively pursue these goals. I've been in multiple RP clans and only one of them was actually active about creating and playing RP games, and that was partially because I was running it.
Right now, most clans are just half-assing things because there's no disincentive against inactivity.
The "elite" clans That you mentioned in fact are a very small percentage of the clans with (most of them) few players.
I wasn't really analyzing them at all, just saying that they're a different animal than what I was going to care about. But in most games I've ever played with a clan/alliance/guild system, you do see this sort of development- some good player just go off to forge their own communities because they specifically want to be surrounded by good players. Those clans are too tiny, although very skilled, to make a big impact on the community by directly helping players- instead, they're pioneer of the metagame, building things like Clan League.
"Elite" clans don't really need specific incentive systems to function well- they're driven almost entirely by the desire of good players to be with other good players. It's the other ones- "big" clans- that I think need an incentive system which WL fails to provide.
having said that i would like to see ranking or anything that would improve, organize, refine the clans. But most of the statics above are useful for the first group of clan. the ones that are already doing fine.
That's true. I put this thread up hoping to get suggestions- so if you have any that would help big clans more, I'd appreciate it if you shared them. :)