Peixoto you don't know me. I've played last year excessively on the realtime ladder and played everybody, even if a win stripped away points of me. Between, as far as i know the competition didn't start yet and i'm planning on getting my challenge ticket trough a tournament anyway.

I could understand your endless moaning if you would be in the top 10 and i just threw you out of it trough joining for 1 game with mod account, the only viable reason i heard so far from ps. But since you aren't your rank won't rise, no matter if i use desi or mod. Only if i use both, your rank will sink 1 position

What's the difference between playing a poorly rated alt or a poorly rated main account? By that I mean someone who plays as if it was their alt, playing very often and not caring about their rating but is still a top tier player.

Looks like you guys pay attention to everything I say but not to the question I ask? I'm discussing ethics, not ranks.

I understand Peixoto's point in general, but I don't think MoD is exactly the poster child for this issue. He's never been one to duck anyone on ladders, and he has played >400 RT ladder games on his main.

In general, the ethics of all competitive environments should dictate that there be only 1 account per player without any exceptions. Magnus Carlsen doesn't get to make ladder runs with an alt to try to set ELO records, nor does Rafa Nadal. It's inherently anti-competitive to allow multiple accounts per player.

Rafael Nadal is Rafael Nadal, not BigPimpin245. And Magnus Carlsen is Magnus Carlsen, not MoneyCashHoes69.

Make accounts that aren't so cluttered, and I'd clean up my first one and use that. Accounts are too disorganized.

Cluttered in what sense?

A bunch of you guys think it's cool to have 300 accounts.

it's not the fault of the rest of us that you insist in playing them all depending on the phase of the moon and the direction of the wind, instead of focusing on your main account.

We shouldn't be suffering in rating or ranking because of any cloning wanking from others. You're abusing the grey area of the rules. The only way to make them stricter is to ban accounts caught playing from same IP. this would hurt families, friend and co-workers playing out of same location and is already accepted that would not be very nice.

So in fact it's you, by creating clones and playing with them, that are causing this situation.

I don't see how the rules can be so hard to comprehend: It is not acceptable to play in ladder with another account that is giving you any sort of advantage. If you can think of any single one way that playing with an alt can give you an advantage in the ladder rating or ranking towards others, you shouldn't be using it. And you fool yourselves into thinking it's ok? How? Because others are also doing it?

You're using it, you're breaking the rules. And ruining the fun for everyone else trying to climb the ladder lawfully. It's not rocket science: You're not playing fair, please stop doing that.

I hear some of you whine about how others are trolling the ladder, or stalling or cheating or asking for person to drop out temporarily to give them 1st place. You should know very well it's not cool for the rest of us. It's not fairplay. And then you end up doing it aswell in one way or the other. That's just lame, childish and stupid.

You might get ranked higher for doing so but to me you are worth a lot less as a person because of it.

Edited 9/10/2015 12:19:28

I agree. We need to put a stop to this madness! Fizzer is out of control.

don't see the problem, the good player will play on the top anyway and player like me play just for fun and be happy to win against a good one for time to time no matter if it is an alt.
Besides the IP you just can give you account login to an better player perhaps to win a tournament or get a better place in ladder, think that would be more unfair than alts.

Edited 9/10/2015 14:40:59

I don't really see the problem unless both are used on a solo ladder at the same time.

Although there are lots of issues with people hiding alts in clans and trolling them.

Why can't Fizzer just empower some people to check for these alts on ladders?

https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=10866

Another one for your list mod :P

What is with that rating? It's ridiculously inflated considering the opponents he's beaten.

If you play how you would play on your main account with your alt, then I see no problem with it. I personally like being on my own team to test my skills, and I also like to see how different my ladder ratings can get in 1v1 games despite having the same skill level on both profiles. One season I was almost 50 spots different whereas another season I was only one away.

Warning

You've reached this page because you have violated some of WarLight's rules. The reason for this warning follows:

Please refrain from using alternate accounts in ladder play.
It's important that everyone feels welcome to WarLight, and you are expected to treat all other players with respect. If you agree to obey the rules from now on, type 'I understand' into the box below. Any further rule breaking will result in suspensions or permanent banning.

FINALLY A SIGN FROM FIZZER!!!

According to this it's not allowed to play with 2 accounts on a ladder. Even if they don't play each other and don't influence (as far as i know) each others rating.

Edit: it's not only forbidden to use 2 accounts, but it also states, that it's forbidden to play on the alt only.

This should be added to the rules page. With clear rules i would have never played with my alt on the ladders

Edited 9/11/2015 12:11:01

Sad that i get a report but i'm happy that fizzer showed some interest in his ladders and that we finally got a clearer rule for alts.

But! According to this message, it's also forbidden to use alts on the 2vs2 ladder?

I got a warning too.

Warning

You've reached this page because you have violated some of WarLight's rules. The reason for this warning follows:

Please refrain from winning too much in ladder play. It's important that everyone feels welcome to WarLight, but your winning intimidates weaker players such as dead piggy.

If you agree to obey the rules from now on, type 'I understand' into the box below. Any further rule breaking will result in suspensions or permanent banning.

i like gui's sense of humour.

probabaly sangfroid is the accoutn gui got from someone for the deal he proposed

yes. So if I were a betting man, I would bet that Summer gets kicked off the 2v2 ladder.

Looks like only i get warned, for what reasons fizzer might have. Maybe i'm just the only one who got reported, for what reasons the reporter might have.

^Or Fizzer just checked out a thread named "alts on the rise" to crack down on the public cases listed. He doesn't always wait for a report.

Technically speaking the ToS can be read as prohibiting the use of multiple accounts. Period.

Practically speaking Fizzer has typically not acted on one player controlling one side of a team, or on someone operating more than one account, as long as it is not used in coin games, ladder*, tournaments or gain an advantage in any way in other games.

*excludes 2v2 ladder, if they are on the same team, and only participating with on team.

P.S "Fun Fact from Tos"

7. Termination
A. Warlight's Right to Termination
Warlight reserves the right to terminate Your Account, limit or prohibit your participation in any game or game for without any reason.

https://www.warlight.net/TermsOfService


EDIT: Also a short list of rules can be found here: https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Rules

note 3. "You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder."

Edited 9/11/2015 14:26:45

i didn't Play vs desi, i have no other Advantage in playing with desi. i didn't "operate one WarLight account in a way that gave me an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder."