Ah, well. Since my last post French has been on a losing spree, and Lynx won a couple key matchups vs Blitz. Now Lynx sits potentially 3rd and French need to stop completing so many games so fast :P

Apex and GG are practically tied. Max point differential is 6 and real point differential is 3. I wish I could say things got better for WG, but they haven't.

JV clinched Guiroma 1v1 for a 5-1 win. Latnox clinched Turkey 1v1 for a 5-0 win atm, his loss will not affect if he wins.

AHoL are doing well, AHoL stuff.

Apex just keeps winning team games, and now are 1 max point ahead of GG. Apex has 99 points and GG has 100 points.

In other news, Darkpie got booted out of most of his games and thus Lynx has taken a serious hit leaving French and Blitz to capitalize pretty hard. WG is clawing their way out of the relegation pit with AHoL but I keep hearing the "One of us.. One of us.." chant. It's quite scary. All of the 1v1 tournaments all have winners which are:

Strat 1v1 ME 0% WR: Mike from GG (5-1)
Battle Islands: GreenTea from Lynx (6-0)
Greece: Gnuffone from WG (6-0)
Guiroma: JV from GG (5-1)
Strat 1v1 ME 0% SR: Brisk from Apex (5-1)
Turkey: Latnox from GG (6-0)

3 sweeps, 3 GG wins, 4 different clans.

Ughh.. That's hard on Lynx.

A big lifeline for the self-professed greatest clan (WG) :P

^What is that supposed to mean? I think we are the best clan to be in. Doesn't mean we should be called #1 (apex has won the last two CLs since we took it).

But, I think we will make a comeback and get at least 3rd. I have faith.

Haha.. I was just tickling.. Just wanted to draw some comments on the thread since people are unusually quiet ;)

Sad about Darkpie's boots :( I know some games for other clans have been made up, but is that an official thing? Like when(if) Darkpie gets back, can we make up games where Lynx was winning or in even shape in before he got booted?

Basically, if it's boot at pick stage it can be replayed, but games that were on-going past pick stage is arguably anyone's game even if the player booted had a decisive advantage.

Considering that Da Vici didn't won any game yet, maybe every warlight player would be agree we can expect better for after.^^ We got a strong 3rd place without him, and even with a poor performance of Niko and me for now.

We understand better the modified-Europe map with Wazz now which was new for us, so we hope to win some games here too.^^ So maybe we can still grab some points to Apex and GG in this Clan League.

And I see WG get a happy ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r2V1njZ8CE

Basically, if it's boot at pick stage it can be replayed, but games that were on-going past pick stage is arguably anyone's game even if the player booted had a decisive advantage.

While I can see where you're coming from, there shouldn't be any rule which prevents rematches if both teams agree. To offer a rematch when you've won on boot, is in itself a noble gesture. We should encourage and applaud such behaviour in this age of cheats and stallers.

I agree with you MoD, but I think it's more a problem of arbitration. It's not always easy to decide who got the lead if two players are not agree, and some players could could pass for assholes even if they are in their rights.

The problem is to find a compromise between laxity and fairness. In a world where everyone is agree with everyone else and the truth is obvious, of course this problem doesn't exist.

In a second hand, there is also a problem of gestion for managers. If everyone could get a make up... keep the score and schedulde clean will be very hard. Considerong vacations are honored and each clans has the choice of their roster, players should be able to deal with it (most of the time... a little bit of laxity is always welcome).

The most important is to have clear rules, displayed before the start of the tournaments. This will be the case for the next season as the best is possible.

While I can see where you're coming from, there shouldn't be any rule which prevents rematches if both teams agree. To offer a rematch when you've won on boot, is in itself a noble gesture. We should encourage and applaud such behaviour in this age of cheats and stallers.

I agree with Phaeril. Players that get applaud will have a disadvantage to the players that don't offer rematch when won on boot. In my eyes that's not fair at all.

I think we should generally stick to the official rules of no replay matches after picks. Otherwise we could end up with a situation where clan A gets relegated because clan B got a replay match against clan C and won it, whereas clan A didn't get a replay match after their boot. The rules should be uniform to the extent that we can make them so.

I won't think any less of a team which thinks they have won, and therefore refuse a rematch. But if it is obvious that the game was undecided and both teams are willing, why stop them?

Also, if the two teams involved really wanted, they could game your current rules. Play a rematch, and the loser surrenders in the active clan league game. How do we stop that from happening?

Yeah there's no way to stop that. But there's no way to stop someone from throwing a game on purpose either.

as there is no official ruleset at this point about replacement games its kind of up to the players indeed if there will be a replacement game or not. As this could lead to the situation beren described there will be an official ruleset next season. Before next season starts all clans will be notified about whether its possible or not to replace games. What rules there will be regarding replacement games and a possible limit of replacement games (to not favor the lazy people)

Not sure about boots. I think boots is a part of the game and shouldnt be replayed
Its like a long season in championship in sport. As injuries or some other cases

Its only my personal vision of situation
p.s. I have been booted a dozen times, but mostly dont see it as unfair, it just happens

I agree with KKND, it is the responsibility of the player to ensure they play in time, vacations are allowed so there is no excuse. It is also the responsibility of the Clan League manager of the respective clans to ensure that the players being put forward to partake in the league are not only active but also reliable.

Agreed, don't think there should be any rematches of games past the picking stage, whether both teams want to do it or not. 3 days with vacations honored is lenient enough. Rematches would affect other clans in addition to the 2 clans involved, they would complicate and delay the results, and they put pressure on the winners to accept rematches or look bad.

What's to stop players from intentionally getting booted when they're at a slight disadvantage or don't like the picks they ended up with, hoping they can pressure the other player(s) into a rematch, saying "But it was still anyone's game!" What if an underdog is holding his own against a better player, due to figuring out a pattern in the player's picks/moves or taking a risky gamble that pays off, and the better player gets booted? Probably won't work a 2nd time, but how can he argue that if it was an even game?

What's to stop players from intentionally getting booted when they're at a slight disadvantage or don't like the picks they ended up with, hoping they can pressure the other player(s) into a rematch, saying "But it was still anyone's game!"

This is mostly why we're probably going to decide on not allowing any games to be replayed after pick stage when we write the official ruleset. We don't want people to take advantage of others' kindness or to drag out the season by intentionally getting booted.

I also agree rematch should not be possible with the exception of one game per team per season. This would give a bit of flexibility (RL always brings surprises).

The one game to be replayed had to be at pick stage because this is the only moment when the game is really even and the team has to ask within a certain time after the boot to avoid a team picking a game at the end of a season once performance of all players are known.