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RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:10:12


Riveath
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SirSalty/MaceFellOutOfTheWindu has been banned completely and indefinitely. This time, Fizzer deleted all of Mace's posts and prevented Salty from logging in at all. And so, Salty decided to leave Warlight forever.


RIP SirSalty. You will be missed.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:13:01


Zephyrum
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

FIZZER WHY

...How did you find this out, though? Do you have some sort of other form to talk to him?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:15:35


Angry Koala
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And at the meantime Tyrion and Karl are still around...

Farewell Sir.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:19:13


Zephyrum
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^ Tyrion got banned again for the 94385379857th time and Karl just went missing.

I'm assuming they met... the roadmap.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:22:54


Angry Koala
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RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:35:22


Riveath
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How did you find this out, though? Do you have some sort of other form to talk to him?


He said it in a CAH game. Belgian can confirm.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:45:30

Help
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His other alt (MaceWindu Chocolate Head) went missing.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:53:22


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*all his other alts
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 22:53:33


Eklipse
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Did SirSalty do anything wrong that warranted a perma-ban other than existing?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:10:42


Riveath
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^ that's the point, Eklipse. He didn't really do much to deserve it. Sure, he was annoying at times, but no one would want him to get banned permanently. Except Fizzer, as it would seem.

Quite sad, really.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:20:15


Zephyrum
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>full laissez-faire on players' opinion
>ignores all uservoice suggestion for the sake of pointless new changes
>all the new changes backfire as glitchy servers or just bad ladder changes
>players complain
>do nothing

...

>google complains once, ONCE
>all inline images removed
>bans half of the off-topic forum for no reason other than putting a minimum age of 13 and protecting 13 year old kiddos from reading swear words

...

?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:25:16


TBest 
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>full laissez-faire on Fizzer's opinion
>ignores all suggestion to change behavior
>all the warnings backfire as Fizzer have but one option left
>players complain
>still does nothing to change his behavior

Fizzer mad/left with no other options

Also, without Ads WL probably can't support itself for a month. So yeah rather no image for no M's, then no WL.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:31:14


Genghis 
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Why put an age restriction if you're still gonna ban people for things?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:32:52


Zephyrum
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(I'd be perfectly fine with no WarLight as long as there was a forum where I could keep up the banter...)

Also, it doesn't really take much effort to solve that; he could have just, y'know, moved the forum to a free forum host such as phpboards or invision. It takes little to no effort, lots of people would definetely help him with it and even in their free versions they are still way better to use than warlight's broken forum.

Also, he does have some guilt for not having an efficient moderation until the poop hit the fan. The fact it took a whole slap to the face (or the bank account for that matter) for him to act already shows negligence. If those images were switfly deleted, players wouldn't post it. If the forums were properly moderated, players wouldn't suddenly start being banned on a daily basis.

I mean, efficient as in getting two or three people having the capacity of deleting an inlined image or a thread and that was it, is it really that hard? Now we actually do have people that seem to actually moderate stuff, why couldn't he have done that earlier? Did it really take GOOGLE to complain for him to act?

Why put an age restriction if you're still gonna ban people for things?


^

13 years old is the age restriction. If you're thirteen and you never heard a swear word, then you probably live in the fuhrerbunker secluded from society and I have no idea how you have access to the Internet. Welcome aboard, swearing is probably the least of your worries, have a good time.

Edited 3/3/2016 23:33:50
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:33:12


Luna {TJC}
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https://youtu.be/C53QAuOoSgc

I'll miss salt but you can only play with fire for so long.

However I'm think there is somewhat of a problem with the consistency of moderation. From what I understand fizzer dosen't like banning people but I think he just get exasperated with some and kills em. That understandable however the problem is some times people get suspended / warned for certain thing other do all the time. I think a more clear cut what is acceptable and what is not would be nice.

Such as the respect rule; it's a bit of a cop out really. Context is a lot and what is respective is sometimes a grey area.

Edited 3/3/2016 23:36:06
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:35:54


Genghis 
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Compared to stealing money, hacking, DDos, laundering or worse, some swear words are a pathetic reason for suspension.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:37:07


Zephyrum
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However I'm think there is somewhat of a problem with the consistency of moderation.


Here is the core of the recent killing spree Fizzer's been on.

He never really moderated or did anything other than very, very, VERY few exceptions.

Players did complain about OT trolls for a long time.

Now he wants to get rid of them because they've been free for too long and, as long as google cares, he does.

So he goes from zero moderation to a maximum security prison tier of moderation where one swear word, from friend to friend, is enough to get you on the hitlist.

Back in my days, people were banned for _actual_ troublemaking, y'know. Like Ion posting his nudes and stuff.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:38:22


Major General Smedley Butler
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Note, Tyrion and the Tyrion alts are actually different people.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:41:32


Zephyrum
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The funny part is that Fizzer's change of heart is seen as so lousy by the community that people get banned and returned like nothing happened. See: Tyrion, Karl, Salty, Death
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-03 23:42:38


Luna {TJC}
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@MGSM

Evidence?
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