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RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 15:03:11


Prabster Realm
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+1 to chris
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 15:07:12


Klarik
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Chris why u hatin on a real gangsta?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 15:13:16


Zephyrum
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1) zeph said he woulf be fine with a game ban if he could still banter on forums. Do you realize that is the issue? So many see the forums as primary and the game secondary (like something to kill time between OT posts)


You know, when the game has no variation whatsoever (the ones that exist are hardly used - competitive playing in general sticks to very few particular maps, such as ME/MME, with not many settings fluctuation) and the forums always has fresh new interesting things to discuss, laugh or hate about, it's pretty clear why some people value it more than the game itself.

That's not the "big issue", MANY players tend to stick to a game for ages and ages despite being quite fed of it just due to community presence. WarLight is no exception. If you don't, well, congratulations, you like Risk and you're better at it than most people. But the players aren't hive-minded. Some like Multi-attack, some like local deployments, some like playing diplomacies, some like to sit back and mess around with custom scenarios and others just really like the forums. Nothing wrong with that. That variety is what keeps a game alife, be it WarLight or not, and literally the last interesting part of all - I repeat, ALL - browser games in the current state of the internet.

You guys may think everyone prioritizes the boards, but most avoid them because they are mostly OT or clan banter now.


I don't think anybody ever said that removing the OT would just kill WarLight (hell, a couple people would probably throw a party for that). But removing the OT would lower traffic, thus lowering revenue. Effectively the same thing as removing underused settings (LD, MA, WR) - players who liked it just leave. Remember Dead Piggy dropping out when the ladder changes showed up?

As said earlier, though, the OT is just another part of WarLight Fizzer really doesn't care about. Much like many others. Fizzer's focus seem to be entirely on new players now, which is sort of correct; making sure new people come is always great, but if he can't keep them here he'll have trouble in several more years. This is why literally everytime some update or ban happens, I give the same rant - Fizzer is pushing the game in a direction that has been taken by other developers before, and the events are all turning out the same way. Uservoice updates - generally aimed at longer-standing players - are ignored, while AI/Single-Player changes are favored - generally aimed at newcomers.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 15:19:41


Klarik
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zeph why you bein a playa hateuh?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 15:46:43


ChrisCMU 
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I have not played MME in months, and play very few on ME.

You need to branch out and join more leagues and tournaments if you are bored.

I just think when you see the forums as the best part, that is a bad road to take because this is not a chat site and not set up with tools and such to run as one. If you turn this into forums first, game 2nd...it means less time he develops the game and more time trying to be a chat site.

Edited 3/4/2016 15:49:30
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 16:06:49


Zephyrum
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You need to branch out and join more leagues and tournaments if you are bored.


I'm not quite "bored", just growing fond of it due to repetition, slowly. If I was bored, probably I wouldn't do such insanity:



The problem is not the game, the problem is that the forums are just so much more fun.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 16:58:48


ChrisCMU 
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I'm not saying OT should go away. Have your fun. Just don't do stuff that pushes boundaries (not you specifically, but people in general).
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 17:00:02


P@üĝrz
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Boundaries are made to be broken :p
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 17:05:34


Zephyrum
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I'm not saying OT should go away. Have your fun. Just don't do stuff that pushes boundaries (not you specifically, but people in general).


The problem is question is what exactly are the boundaries, why they seem different from people to people and why are they suddenly applied and more strict so quickly.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 17:07:31


Klarik
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Because Fizzer is a human being. He has certain triggers and certain people who upset him. Salty must be one of them or he must have said or done something that especially disturbed fizzer. Or he got more complaints about him than anyone else.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 17:45:22


Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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ChrisCMU, same thing applies to Tyrion.

At the time when Tyrion recieved a three month ban, he was in almost 60 multi day games and was a high ranking member of a clan, being one of its original members. In fact, he was the one that recruited the clans current leader...
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 18:59:04


Fan the Apostle
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At least Salty can still play CAH.

Hope is not lost my salty freind
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 21:19:03


Cursona 
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Good.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 21:56:34


AbsolutelyEthan 
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+40 chris
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 22:31:00


Genghis 
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Survivor's Bias : very few use the forums.

I simply do not find entertainment in the game anymore so i abstract the hell out of it.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 23:39:24


Cata Cauda
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You know, when the game has no variation whatsoever (the ones that exist are hardly used - competitive playing in general sticks to very few particular maps, such as ME/MME, with not many settings fluctuation) and the forums always has fresh new interesting things to discuss, laugh or hate about, it's pretty clear why some people value it more than the game itself.

There are hundres of templates, dozens of settings and thousands of variations, and you complain there is no variation?!
Wow

Edited 3/4/2016 23:40:14
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-04 23:43:02


Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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Cata, I've played probably something like ~2500 games. And each person has a limited interest.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 2016-03-05 00:09:20


GeneralPE
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Cata is just an elitist
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