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Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 18:11:21


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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A dictatorship is the absolute opposite of communism.

Yet every attempt at communism has resulted in dictatorship. Wonder why that is...

Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 18:26:31


Imperator
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Imperator. I dont want to replace capitalism with communism. I would rather like to have communistic concepts and ideas in mind to improve a political system. and in the danger of repeating myself: I believe a society should have more social than capitalistic aspects.


Yes I know, you want to make broke european countries like Greece and Spain.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 18:26:41


Major General Smedley Butler
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Small level communism, Soviet Democracy, is wonderful. Allows a town to be relatively self-sufficient and gives power to the town and individual. The problem with big government systems is that they would never let this go along, and they would make it collapse in on itself. Libertarian governments would have no problem with this, you as a town would be free to keep your production and have your own militia.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 19:53:33


Angry Koala
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Soviet Democracy? Does this even exist?
I agree about small scales attempts, it could work better than in nation wide scales.
See Marinaleda, Spain, in impoverished Andalusia, this town used to suffer terrible hardships. Led by a charismatic mayor, the village declared itself a communist utopia and took farmland to provide for everyone. While 30% of the active population in Andalusia was without work, Marinaleda had full employment. Could it be the answer to modern capitalism's failings?
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 20:18:45


Ranek
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Yet every attempt at communism has resulted in dictatorship. Wonder why that is...


which attempt? you can call a fat pig a sexy, pink beauty, though it is still a fat pig! or if someone hits your face until it is red mush, he may call the procedure: lovely cuddle time although we both agree it rather is something totally different. I hope you finally got the point..

Yes I know, you want to make broke european countries like Greece and Spain.


pls dont play the trolling dumbass..
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 20:22:54


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pls dont play the trolling dumbass..


I'm not, those are the real world effects of your "Social Democracy". Which, by the way, is the name of what you're describing, not "Socialism/Communism".
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 20:32:40


Major General Smedley Butler
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_(council)

Panda, actually know about something before you speak.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 20:55:52


Angry Koala
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Posting a wiki link without explanations does not help your argumentation at all Major. Worse is to not even fully read it, Soviets were organized form of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and everyone wasn't allowed to participate in it (some classes were excluded), not something I would call a democracy, even if there were some attempts in the beginning but failed very quickly.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 21:18:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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I obviously do not want to exclude people who live in such communities, and I don't want to live in a commune, but I'm advocating it as a option for the communists.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 21:36:33


Жұқтыру
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Communism's worked many times. Not the USSR (which was officially socialist) nor the CFR, but in small towns in India and Indonesia, that noo e's heard of, they're so irrelevant. However, communism on a bulk scale needs a much more altruistic society, and with conservatism and nationalism afoot, that won't happen (unless it's government-started, and it won't be). And the way to communism (extreme leftism) is an unstable one, and almost undeniably a bad one.

But capitalism and less government is achievable, and the way to it is less painful, though the end is less wonderful.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 21:49:32


Ranek
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those are the real world effects of your "Social Democracy"


under which circumstances can someone even consider to call the recent Greek political system social, democratic or Social Democracy?
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 21:59:38


GeneralPE
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which attempt?

China. N. Korea. Cuba. USSR. Angola, if I'm not mistaken. Several more (Guatemala?) in Central America.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-28 23:00:20


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under which circumstances can someone even consider to call the recent Greek political system social, democratic or Social Democracy?


For one, they actually have elections; Quite a lot of them actually, apparently twice a year.

Secondly, they've had a left-wing social democratic party in power due to them winning these elections for a while now (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriza), who I can only imagine have been implementing some kind of left-wing nonsense the whole time.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-29 03:39:23


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Im surprised teamguns isnt in here trying to flounder around.
Why is Communism superior to Capitalism?: 2016-03-29 03:40:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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^ He ought to be here defending strong governments.
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