PE: "Christians have killed, but it wasn't in Jesus's path" : Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, the Genocide of the Cathars, the mass killing of pagan Saxons and then pagan Baltic people by Christian knights? Do you want more?

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The last two quotes are closed-ended, not open like in the Quran. And Christians believe the New Testament takes precedence over the Old

Path, not name. I understand English isn't your first language, so I will excuse it. Path means they follow in his footsteps. Jesus never harmed a man in his life. Following his path would be to do the same

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"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Luke 19:17

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
And a man's enemies will be the members of his household."
Luke 12:49-53


All of these above are quotes from Jesus. Are they clear enough for you? Or will I need to keep digging quotes?

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Pls stop using that second quote. It illustrates only that devout people must buck the trend. It has not got anything to do with violence

I perfectly know what "path" means but it seems however you do not know how to use it, very worrying for an English native speaker such as you PE. In Jesus's path (when wrongly interpreted in the Bible, like some people do with the Quran and similarly in "Muhammad's path") people also killed, unless you are an ignorant you should have known this.

Let me now be clear about religion, you won't teach me anything about it, I had to attend catechism for years, and read the Bible and went to Pilgrimage in 3 sacred christian places (Lourdes, Santiago and Rome), because I was from a very religious family, I am actually quite confident that I know more about Christianity than you do (by judging your participations and comments about Christianity). And hence you would have known that Islam and Christianity, when wrongly interpreted or when people are perverted by fundamentalists of both religions, are equally dangerous and destructive.

No, Christianity when wrongly interpreted is just as dangerous as Islam in its true form

^ No, Christianity when wrongly interpreted is just as dangerous as Islam.

There's a passage about killing children in the bible, quit your yammering about how the bible is free of criticism because it had a Jewish rebel in it.

GeneralPE, tell me how do you interpret the quotes I just gave you? For me interpreting that passages on the literal way is just dangerous enough.

Stop demonizing Islam and sanctifying Christianism. Don't be a hippocrite.

It's not that Christianity has never been violent. It's that Christian violence is mostly in the past while Islamic violence is a very real problem in the present.

Cry about the Crusades all you want, but it's irrelevant now. Christianity has no modern equivalent to ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

Does modern Christian terrorism exist? Yes, but it's very small and only a threat to small regions. Islamic terrorism is a global threat and far more extensive.

Bigger problems take priority.

It's not that Christianity has never been violent. It's that Christian violence is mostly in the past while Islamic violence is a very real problem in the present.

And you should ask yourself why are Muslim societies facing currently this problem? It has been proved with historical facts that Islam is not inherently worse than Christianity. 2 easy explanations: Wars (decades of foreign interference and dictators playground) which generated Misery, a very powerful combustible to violence and terrorism.

Western colonialism and then interventionism created the situation we're in now. Don't blame Islam for the current situation. Blame Bush, blame the Clintons, blame Brezhnev, blame all the foreign leaders that brought misery and war for the region.

No, Christianity when wrongly interpreted is just as dangerous as Islam in its true form

Christianity in its true form is actually less dangerous than Islam in its true form.

It's that Christian violence is mostly in the past while Islamic violence is a very real problem in the present.

Cry about the Crusades all you want, but it's irrelevant now. Christianity has no modern equivalent to ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

The point is, it's from irreligion that Christianity is so moderate today. Moderate = ignoring some things of the faith so not to be a total loon. It's not inherently Christian, it's inherently apatheist, that Christianity is more peaceful today.

Does modern Christian terrorism exist? Yes, but it's very small and only a threat to small regions. Islamic terrorism is a global threat and far more extensive.

Bigger problems take priority.

Islamic terrorism is not a "global threat". American weapons given to these loons and these loons being supported, like Mashriq, for example. The freedom fighters of today become the terrorists of tomorrow. There's only 3 or so countries where violent Islamic extremism is a "threat" that came from practically nowhere, and I'm going to be liberal: NE Nigeria site (and technically, no, since Mashriq was funded by American government), Israel (Israeli gov's in great bit to blame for that, though), and Egypt.

Terrorism in Egypt is largely imputable to the military coup that took out of office the elected vote. In Nigeria, government anti-muslim policies created Boko Haram, and in Israel, it's imputable to the country's policies as well there.

In Egypt, yeah, it came from loads of instability and revolt, and Mashriq managed to get a hold in Sinai, and in Israel, you're right, too (and I said this). In Nigeria though - HA HA HA. Heck no, really? West-Provinz is a successor of previous Muslim-Christian violence there, I will say that, but you know, the north half of Nigeria is governed by Islamic theocratic law for all, and 3 states I think that have Islamic theocratic law for Muslims only. There have been many Nigerian Muslim leaders recently, and the states in Nigeria get somewhat good self-rule. It's far from Nigerian policies that made West-Provinz.

Don't blame Islam for the current situation.

Stop apologizing and making excuses. It just empowers them

Terrorism in Egypt is largely imputable to the military coup that took out of office the elected vote.

Since Morsi was supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical terrorist organization, I fail to see how you can say that the military coup is responsible for a problem that was there before. While they might have made terrorists angry, it's not over democratic issues but rather that they took away the terrorist organizations political backing.

Looks like there are some abrahamic religions fight. *grab popcorn*

I misread the "Christian" in the title and thought it said "Chinese".

Would've been more exciting.