Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-25 19:27:15 |
knyte
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Alternative, here's another method-
1. Reweight for opponent pool so far: Get the average (mean) success rate (points won / points contested) against all other clans for each clan, using 50% or a calculation based on overall success rates for clans that have not yet faced each other
2. Reweight for pace of play: Get the total # of points contested so far, split them evenly between clans, and then multiply by the success rate
You can just rank the clans by the new points. You could also do this without reweighting the success rate and just adjusting for the pace of play so clans that compete faster than others won't be at an advantage.
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-25 22:43:34 |
Memele
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I don't want to add new variable, more work to do :P But the success rate againts each clan...I could use it to do a review time to time, when this is more advanced.
By the way, if I understood you right, your nº 2 method is exactly the same as the win rate ^^U
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 02:32:00 |
ZhugeLiang
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Feel free to add updates yourself if you think you can better them, no one is stopping you ;)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 03:52:46 |
Tac(ky)tical
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Although it would be cool if you could continually edit the first forum post to contain the scores so I don't have to go to last reply and scroll through to find the latest score every time :)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 09:13:01 |
l4v.r0v
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Not quite. Especially while the season's still progressing, it's also worthwhile to have some idea of strength of schedule. A 7-0 start means different things if 4 of those games were against DARKLORDS or against Apex. You don't need any complex adjustments to account for that either.
It's kind of like basketball or any other professional sport. You can tell a lot of what a player's or team's performance was like based on just a few simple stats like points, points allowed, shooting percentage. But those still miss some key elements, and that's why we also track things like pace, rebounds, assists, +/-, eFG%, ORB vs. DRB, steals, blocks, turnovers and generate aggregated stats like strength of schedule, Offensive and Defensive Rating or even Elo/wackier systems like CARM-ELO. That's all so you can properly extract what you learned from a set of performances in a way that gives you enough insight to really apply it to a set of future performances and also figure out- for example- how bad a loss or loss streak is and how well a team's actually doing at any given moment. In CL, since teams tend to sometimes cluster within +/- 5% of each other for win rates, it's pretty worthwhile to figure out which of these identical-looking win rates indicates a superior performance.
Edited 6/26/2016 09:20:18
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 13:31:07 |
Memele
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Update: ME: kram (stahl) defeated almostricky (Sninja) french: PJ017 (ONE) defeated wakanarai (Blitz) T.Map: Markus (101) defeated Min (REGL) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 24 225 8 5 61.54%
2º VIW 18 228 6 4 60%
3º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
4º 101 12 231 4 3 57.14%
5º REGL 12 225 4 5 44.44%
6º SNinja 12 222 4 6 40%
7º Stahl 9 216 2 8 27.27%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl @Tac(ky)tical Ok, I will edit the first post
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 16:15:25 |
Tac(ky)tical
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Nice updates :)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-26 21:34:13 |
Memele
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Update: B.Islands: memele (REGL) defeated Txomin (Sninja). He was booted (but I think I had advantadge), let's hope it's only a game and the boots don't spread. For now Battle islands is the tournament with more finished games. Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 24 225 8 5 61.54%
2º VIW 18 228 6 4 60%
3º REGL 15 225 5 5 50%
4º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
5º 101 12 231 4 3 57.14%
6º SNinja 12 219 4 7 36.36%
7º Stahl 9 216 2 8 27.27%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, REGL/ONE, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-27 21:02:19 |
Memele
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Update: Greece: paniagotis (101) defeatd kirby (Sninja) mifran (ONE) defeated elbee (REGL) B.Islands: PJ017 (ONE) defeated kevin (stahl) French: Elbee (REGL) defeated kevin (Stahl) Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated rakleader (SNinja) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 30 225 10 5 66.67%
2º VIW 21 228 7 4 63.64%
3º REGL 18 222 6 6 50%
4º 101 15 231 5 3 62.50%
5º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
6º SNinja 12 213 4 9 30.77%
7º Stahl 9 210 2 10 23.08%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz/ONE, VIW, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Note: This week I will be busy, specially from thursday. Maybe I won't be able to update all the days, but I will try ;)
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-28 20:08:57 |
Memele
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Update: Greece: Paniagotis (101) defeated Serjtz (Stahl) Elbee (REGL) defeated Kirby (Sninja) Now this is the tournament with more finished games. Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 30 225 10 5 66.67%
2º VIW 21 228 7 4 63.64%
3º REGL 21 222 7 6 53.85%
4º 101 18 231 6 3 66.67%
5º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
6º SNinja 12 210 4 10 28.57%
7º Stahl 9 207 2 11 21.43%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz/ONE/101, VIW, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-06-29 20:42:03 |
Memele
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@Beren: I lokked but didnt't saw it o_O Not sure if it finished after it or i looked too fast ^^U Update: ME: Almosttricky (Sninja) defeated Dagorin (REGL) Guiroma: Farragut (stahl) defeated berserk (REGL) Greece: Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated Mifran (ONE) T.Map: Min (REGL) defeated mushimushi (Stahl) 2vs2 (I will use clans and not players) ME: ONE defeated VIW and VIW defeated REGL Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º ONE 34 222 11 6 64.71%
2º VIW 28 224 9 5 64.29%
3º REGL 24 212 8 9 47.06%
4º 101 18 231 6 3 66.67%
5º SNinja 15 210 5 10 33.33%
6º Blitz 12 234 4 2 66.67%
7º Stahl 12 204 3 12 25.00%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz/101, VIW, ONE, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-07-01 13:18:41 |
Memele
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Updates: ME: Awol (VIW) defeated kram (stahl) kram (stahl) defeated platinum (101) giantfrog (blitz) defeated awol (VIW) B.Islands: MoOoOoOoO (VIW) defeated Txomin (sninja) French: Awesomeguy (VIW) defeated both tac(ky)tycal (101) and Kevin (stahl) Classification (by points):
Clan points Max points Wins Losses Winrate
1º VIW 40 221 13 6 68.42%
2º ONE 34 222 11 6 64.71%
3º REGL 24 212 8 9 47.06%
4º 101 18 225 6 5 54.55%
5º Blitz 15 234 5 2 71.43%
6º SNinja 15 207 5 11 31.25%
7º Stahl 15 198 4 14 26.32%
Classification (max points): Blitz, 101, ONE, VIW, REGL, SNinja, Stahl Classification (win rate): Blitz, VIW, ONE, 101, REGL, SNinja, Stahl
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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 2016-07-01 15:45:38 |
KKND
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Wow, good start from VIW
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