Tabby you're an arrogant arse who's broken beyond all repair. Bayern's just a 12 year old trying to satisfy his meaningless life by making up bullshit about refugees; his opinion can change. You, on the other hand think you're right all the time and frankly are just damaged.

That's why I won't argue with you. I'm not helping anyone by doing so.

^Sure! For example there are some people who believe in wife-beating and they literally practice that. There are some people who believe in honor killings and they literally practice that. Shall these ideas be respected? No! What happens is that bad ideas (no matter whether they are in the Nazi form or in the Islamist form) must be removed or they will lead to bad actions.

Your examples are not valid. Each example you posit here is not example of all beliefs being respected. Rather, you are giving me examples of where one person uses their belief to violate another belief. If there is one time where beliefs should not be respected, it is where that belief violates another belief. However, when a Muslim woman wears a burqa, whose belief is she violating? You can't say another person who believes he/she herself should not wear a burqa, all they need to do is not wear a burqa. Nor can you say a person who believes that no one should wear a burqa, because that violates the belief of the burqa wearer.

^Well I'm sometimes more conservative than most and sometimes more progressive than most. For example in terms of the burqa and Islamism there should be a global ban. The Wahhabi entity in particular should be declared to be a terrorist and criminal organization and banned. The UN should take over Arabian Peninsula.

I supposed you liked red herring. you are a cat, after all.

^^If burqas are indeed voluntary they should be tolerated. However nobody should be allowed to force his/her female relative to wear them.

Bingo! Spot on. There are only two countries which have a required dress code: Saudi Arabia and Iran. I completely disagree with their sentiments. However, the vast majority of Muslims have their choice of whether or not to wear a burqa, which is any not in the two aforementioned countries.

^Sure if husbands, parents and brothers of women have no say in whether they wear the burqa. Otherwise no. Ultimately I believe in individual religious freedom while oppose collective religious power. My version of Utopia is a bunch of individuals free from any family-related identities pursue their own interests and those of others.

As long as the state does not protect the individual from his/her families and tribes he/she is not actually free. Countries such as Japan and regions such as the American South are not free because of the existence of family power which violates individual freedom.

The problem with males compelling females to wear a burqa is that it is not a legal input. This is a result of the international epidemic of sexism that plagues our world. The feminist movement is hard at work to change that. It may be a while, but we will get there.

I have never heard about your utopia idea. I will have to think on that for a while. Utopia, however, is inherently an ideal that is largely impossible to reach, and usually results in a dystopia if it is ever actually implemented. So I am not favorable that it could work.

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Bayern's just a 12 year old trying to satisfy his meaningless life by making up bullshit about refugees; his opinion can change.

You overestimate him.

Legit people are people who pass the border with an ID, and not like 60% of the immigrants, without.

Is Bulgaria the Mississippi of Europe?

However Europe is the homeland of Europeans. If you want to emigrate it is much better for everyone to only enter nations of immigrants instead, be it countries in Americas or Oceania. Why not try South America for example?

No one asked for this paragraph

Europe is the homeland of Europeans

oh have they healed your cognitive dissonance? Not a month ago you were saying

A conservative Jew is not conservative.

Ok looks like you still have some problems to work out.

I guess Europeans are ethereal, godly beings then.

@tabby. I gave a little thought to your utopia idea. The one big criticism I have of it, is if a country has legal freedom, but an adult non-dependent feels their family is limiting it, they can sue their own family to gain back their independence and freedom. The idea of your utopia, then, is not necessary. Rather, what is better, simpler, easier, and cheaper to implement is to make sure everyone knows their rights and how to use them.

Legit people are people who pass the border with an ID, and not like 60% of the immigrants, without.

Could you link a source that states this about 60% of immigrants?

Could you link a source that states this about 60% of immigrants?

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2132686256
he's very insightful

source other than yourself* I think you mean to say

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knows their rights

If they did this this thread wouldn't have existed.



Could you link a source that states this about 60% of immigrants?

You mean you, Americans, can't watch TV? Or that USA doesn't care for Europe and never gives news about the immigrants?

Bayern sources:

DUMB AMERIKAN LOOK OUTSIDE!

Answer me, which is right:
1) USA cares only for itself and doesn't give any news about European borders being trashed by illegal immigrants passng them without IDs
2) You don't watch TV
3) You watch TV and know whats really happening but argue with me because you can't admit being wrong

You mean you, Americans, can't watch TV? Or that USA doesn't care for Europe and never gives news about the immigrants?

That's not valid source. I said link a source, not tell me to find it myself. It is your piece of information that you provided, you should be responsible for proving it, not me.

If they did this this thread wouldn't have existed.

This means you know but one of many of your rights.

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>saying topkek
>bottomkek

Yeah, yeah... sure... you're gonna find a stupid answer to whatever I say, I understand.