Hi,
can you add me in pls?
thanks

Bayern, your question is already answered very clearly in my Group H update above. Please read it, as I'm not going to post it again just for you. Thanks.

Alexander The Only One, I've added you to the list for next season.

Well, you could've said yes or no... anyway... I think I understood it

Sorry Bayern, I wasn't meaning to be harsh. Yes, at this stage I have 16th place in Group H receiving a promotion.

That said, I would prefer that all players read my updates thoroughly before asking unnecessary questions that have already been addressed in the update. I don't have the time to answer individual questions from every league participant, which is why I try to put as much information into the updates as possible when I post them.

The fact Group H is going to finish well before group A is sad xD

Group A: In Progress

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Arkanton (5-2)
huddyj (5-2)
Buns157 (4-1)
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak (4-3)
Master Bjarke (3-3)
iNsAnE (2-3)
PhucilliJerry (1-3)
Super Smoove (0-0)
Bonsai (0-7)

In the 10 days since my last update for Group A, PhucilliJerry and Super Smoove have both moved on to their 4th vacation in a row! However, we have thankfully seen 5 games finish since then. In his brief play time between vacations, PhucilliJerry lost 3 matches (to Arkanton, Panagiotis, and huddyj) and won 1 (a boot win against Bonsai). With his boot win over Panagiots, Buns is still pushing relentlessly for top spot. Seems like the luck is going his way so far this season...

Edited 10/23/2016 05:14:59

I've updated the Group H standings by editing my previous Group H update, so please look there to see what's been happening.

Group A hasn't had any more games finish lately, and is almost certain to be the last group to finish.

Matches remaining Group A: 12
Matches remaining Group H: 3

Edited 10/23/2016 22:08:10

Super Smoove (0-0)

Regardless of the outcome of group A, I believe that something like seasonal ladder should be implemented - so, the game creator should define time span for the tournament (this is small earth map, therefore 10 turns is the maximum when the game should be decided, save some particularly difficult positions) say 2 months. If the tournament is not finished in that time, all games not yet finished should be considered as defeat (both players!) regardless of how good or bad situation each player has.

That way the tournaments can be much faster, and will avoid endless vacations like we currently have. 2-3 vacations still leave enough time to end 7-8 games at least.

The tournaments that didn't end, yet, will be finished in normal fashion, but, any result after the official end will not be honored.

Hasdrubal, that will just encourage stalling under certain conditions, if you are up a game in the tourney, but losing the game against whoever is in second, and third is 2+ games behind you, then stalling that game gives you the win for the tourney, which is stupid imo.

Not if the outcome is loss. Right now lack of activity (booting) has consequence of kicking out of league. You can stop the tournament by a game or two, but three or more games (and you are booted) can push you to relegation just because you have negative points. As I see this series of tournaments, booting is less desirable than ordinary loss, because, if two have the same outcome, booted player is always after players with ordinary losses.

However, if this is not the case, I recommend that booted one should have negative points.

Potential Rule Changes

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Thanks Hasdrubal. Negative points for a boot loss looks like a really good idea. I would actually consider implementing this next season if people show support for the idea. Hopefully it would encourage people to at least surrender their games rather than get booted.

I would award -0.5 points per boot loss, but still award 1 point for a boot win. Also, an inactive player would be defined as a player who finishes the season with a negative point score rather than a player with more than a 50% boot rate. This would give players who accidentally booted in a few games a chance to still participate in the next season without having to re-join at the bottom.

• Edit: My main issue with this rule change is that I would have to check the result of every single game to ensure it wasn't a boot.

As to the idea of awarding both players with a loss if a game takes too long, I won't consider implementing that. However, I propose a rule to set a maximum of 3 vacations per season, with any player exceeding this automatically receiving a relegation.

Edited 10/24/2016 07:56:20

Sounds good!

As to the idea of awarding both players with a loss if a game takes too long, I won't consider implementing that.

Wise decision. otherwise you could end up punishing players that play <1 day average per turn

Timinator, idea is just tossed to solve current situation. If people don't think they can play one season, it is fair to consider to rejoin next season, rather than delaying the current one or to frustrate other players.

This is not ladder where player can quit tournament and join when he finds it appropriate.

Group A: In Progress

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Arkanton (6-2)
huddyj (6-2)
Buns157 (5-1)
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak (5-3)
Master Bjarke (3-3)
iNsAnE (3-4)
PhucilliJerry (2-3)
Super Smoove (0-5)
Bonsai (0-7)

Well well, what have we here? Finally some progress in Group A! After 4 vacations in a row, Super Smoove boots from all 5 of his active games. At minimum, he's entrenched in relegation territory. More likely he'll be leaving the league, with a more than 50% boot rate.

(His only chance to avoid this is to have a reasonable excuse and play out his remaining games--another reason why I think the previously mentioned rule change is a good idea, as it saves me having to decide what constitutes a 'valid excuse'.)

Buns also gets a gutsy win over iNsAnE in a very tight game, significantly improving his chances of winning the league. All Buns needs to do is win his last 2 games, but 1 loss and we'll have a 3-way tie for top spot (which Buns will most likely win on tie-breakers), and 2 losses giving Arkanton back to back titles due to his head-to-head win over me. My only chance to win comes down to a tie-breaker tournament, which will only happen if Buns loses to PJ, and PJ wins all of his remaining games. This will force an unbreakable tie for first, but unfortunately I don't think it's very likely.

Matches remaining Group A: 6
Matches remaining Group H: 2

Edited 10/28/2016 03:23:57

Is what one might add when possible in the league?

Group H: In Progress
7th. Joe Howe (12-7)
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7th. Mirage (12-7)
7th. Hasdrubal (11-7)
7th. japan77 (9-7)

This is interesting... If japan beats me, he can still win double promotion, but if I beat him, he can drop remaining game as well.

Edited 10/26/2016 12:58:29

all these delays over excessive vacations make me wonder why we honor vacations at all.
The league could run a LOT faster without them and hey.. i go on vacation and lose all my games through boot.... so what? It's not exactly the end of the world.

I would suggest changing to no vacation honoring and just don't throw anyone out of league for booting, just let them slide down a division

If and when players boot out of games in the lowest division, then replace them

Edited 10/26/2016 16:17:57

Dunno if I like that approach. Once in a while I have a week when I really can't play. It would be a pity that I would be punished for that. I almost never join things where vacations are not honored, and I definitely wouldn't participate in this if they aren't. I think the option of more games at a time is the most appealing if you need to speed things up