No, ape is a biological consensus. The main problem about phylogeny is that it defines a "species" concept. That term is used to simplyfy things for biologians, but the true unit is either the individuum and/or cell.

Edited 8/18/2017 21:27:17

Apes not kill apes.

Do not use "improved". Determinism is not scientifical in life sciences.

Humans are without doubt not apes. There is no evidence to prove your claim, Tabby.

You do not even have to read scientific papers. This article is more than enough (with its tons of hyperlinks and sources):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape#Distinction_from_monkeys

humans are without a doubt not apes. There is no evidence to prove your claim, Tabby.

What are you talking about? This is not a matter of opinion. It's not like you decide what an ape is.

You do not need evidence to prove a fucking definition. How hard can it be for people to understand?

Edited 8/18/2017 21:45:28

You guys won't fool me with the "99%" myth.

Here is an article written by John Stonestreet and I quote:

Humans Aren’t Apes: It’s Past Time We Evolve Past This Outdated Assertion

Putting myths to rest is always a good thing, and right now it needs to be bedtime for Bonzo.

Journalists and science writers endlessly repeat the biological bromide that “humans and chimpanzees are 99% genetically identical,” a factoid that has taken on a life of its own and, pun intended, has evolved into a worldview assumption. If our genes are virtually indistinguishable from those of chimpanzees, the reasoning goes, we must be virtually indistinguishable from chimpanzees!

Kevin Williamson, writing at the National Review of all places, made this leap about Ivanka Trump’s rude welcome by fellow airline passengers recently. If we are, after all, 99 percent chimps, it’s not surprising our inner apes would make an appearance, say, on a JetBlue flight.

Now, people certainly are capable of acting like animals, and the scientific-sounding assertion that we really are animals at heart seems to explain it. But there’s just one problem: It’s not true. Our DNA is not 99 percent identical to that of chimpanzees. Even if it were, that wouldn’t make us apes-except-for-one-percent. That’s bad genetic science and reductionist philosophy, to boot.

Writing at Evolution News and Views, David Klinghoffer points out that the “99%” myth is based on hopelessly outdated research. But it got a shot in the arm after researchers at the Genome Consortium announced in 2005 they’d sequenced chimp DNA and compared it with our own.

Newspapers the world over trumpeted the similarity between the two genomes as further proof of our close ancestry. What they neglected to mention was that the project only compared protein-coding segments of the genome, which in humans, account for just 2 percent of the total! The rest is what Francis Collins once termed “junk DNA.” Except, as scientists have since discovered and Collins has admitted, this “junk” serves regulatory roles that determine how other genes are expressed, particularly in the brain. In other words, “junk DNA,” which makes up the vast majority of our genome, is a vital part of what makes humans, human and chimps, chimps.

Second, it turns out that the “99%” figure resulted from using a complete human genome as the template to sequence that of chimpanzees. That would be like assembling a jigsaw puzzle based on how another puzzle fit together!

The comparison also selected for areas of greater similarity and discarded those that didn’t match. To put it very simply, the two genomes looked similar because researchers expected them to look similar.

Based on what we now know, biologist and Senior Fellow at the Center for Science and Culture, Ann Gauger, estimates that humans and chimps share around 92 percent of our DNA. To put that in perspective, scientists tell us that we’re 90% identical to cats.

But then it gets more complicated. As Gauger admitted in an interview with the Discovery Institute, recent advances show how differently human and ape bodies put specific genes to work. Special proteins called transcription factors switch certain genes on and off during development, and roughly a third of these are human-specific. Apes don’t even have them.

The differences on the level of gene transcription, splicing, and expression are so profound that Gauger compares the process with an operating system, and protein-specific DNA with lines of code. They may look the same, but the results—a human and a chimp—could hardly be more different.

As former British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli observed indignantly upon reading Darwin, human beings are more like angels than apes. And he was right. No animal speaks, composes symphonies, paints masterpieces, sends probes to Saturn, or more importantly—desires a relationship with God.

Even if the “99%” canard were true, it wouldn’t make us 99 percent chimps any more than a diamond’s carbon composition makes it 99 percent coal. We’re not the sum of our genes, and it’s past time that journalists and commentators evolve past this outdated assertion.

humans are without a doubt not apes. There is no evidence to prove your claim, Tabby.

What are you talking about? This is not a matter of opinion. It's not like you decide what an ape is.

You do not need evidence to prove a fucking definition. How hard can it be for people to understand?

It is like the butter-rama magarine-matter.
The one is butter, the other one isn´t.
You can´t change definitions.
Scientist might be right with the evolution-theory though.....

Additionally, if you are talking about a theory in science then that is different from
the common meaning of theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
https://www.livescience.com/21490-what-is-a-scientific-hypothesis-definition-of-hypothesis.html
http://amr.aom.org/content/14/4/532.short
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

Edited 8/19/2017 00:08:34

The article which I've put here is a refutation on the theory of evolution.

If you copy the first sentence of the article and put it on Google search bar, you'll find it.

The article which I've put here is a refutation on the theory of evolution.

You know what refutes your refutation of evolution? Antibiotic resiitant bacteria! Mhhm, thats evolution every person can follow.

Non-believers lashing out does help spread the message, though.

"Normal" is what the norm, AKA what the majority does. Which is believing right now.

Tabby, don't exacerbate the forums.

The ten commandments are not weird to most people.

The quran probably is weird. The bible is too. The 10 commandments are not. If you have a problem with the ten commandments I definitely want to see you coming.

Edited 8/19/2017 02:50:02

"You can't use morality to shut down arguments about facts."

What facts are you referring to?

That's a common tactic of confused Christians and libtards alike.

So libtards and christians both try to use morality and theology to hinder facts? I think your reaching. BIG TIME.

"By the way please do respond. Ignoring arguments they can't refute is another tactic both libtards and Christians."

Going to taco bell. Ill get to you when I can.

Lol, Im not going to respond to a thing in that crappy post. LOL!