oh thanks for supporting me guys i was worried about my big losing streak there but yeah im lik 1600 at best on that map

https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=18387
https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=17331

Rules haven't been introduced yet, as far as I know.

games ongoing on 2 different accounts at the same time is something that is already against the rules i think, at least being ranked at the same time is and it seems like he might be switching it from time to time

has ongoing games on two accounts and has 20 unranked games on both accounts. he has either played with both as the same time or been joining the ladder to get games, then leaving it to join with the other account to get games.

Its clear that whatever he's doing is not what he should be doing.

I am not stating, that I am a fan of this practice, but one of the accounts you linked, currently does not partipate in the ladder.

Crazy talk, for one if someone wants to play on a different account it makes little difference if the games are expired on the other account. And it would kill activity and skill level on the 2v2 and especially the 3v3 ladder (which is currently pathetic).

That's why a new feature should (and i'm sure will eventually) be implemented, where you can "duplicate" yourself in team games. This would avoid logging with several accounts to place your orders (i guess not convenient) and hopefully put an end to alts (this feature would be allowed to form a team full of yourself only).

this feature would be allowed to form a team full of yourself only

There is no way that any game creator would do that.

What ? What do you mean ?

Edited 9/22/2017 11:31:00

To allow player to "duplicate" himself in team games as you mentioned. It could be a solution to alts, but it is definitely something that game developer should avoid. If you do that, then there would be even more "solo" players.

Edited 9/22/2017 11:42:17

Mike have you been looking at the links?

I don't think so since you are starting about 2v2 and 3v3 while this is something that is happening on the 1v1 ladder.

Besides that i'm agreeing with what Rufus just said in regards to that part. I don't think we need more solo players but we need real teams on the ladders.

What I meant is with such feature implemented, alts as we know it would not exist any more. So the point would be no more alt on WL, no more hidden account (provided Fizzer can block them somehow ; like 1 account per IP unless ID documents are scanned to prove the 2nd one is someone else lol), no more 1v1 ladder issue. But still the possibility to play team games with team of alts.

Regarding solo players, well just see these "3v3 team games" as 1v1 games, played by players who play 3 players. These games would be a new kind and the template would specify if 3 players have to be played by the same person or not.
A team of 3 with 3 picks each is different than a team of 1 with 9 pick.

Anyway that's the idea, no point to discuss it further lol, as i'm sure it's far from Fizzer roadmap right now.

What I meant is with such feature implemented, alts as we know it would not exist any more. So the point would be no more alt on WL, no more hidden account (provided Fizzer can block them somehow ; like 1 account per IP unless ID documents are scanned to prove the 2nd one is someone else lol), no more 1v1 ladder issue. But still the possibility to play team games with team of alts.

I was playing at school with some classmates of me who basically only play at school together with me. Do you want to prevent us from playing all together as well with the thing you just mentioned.

For the last part of your message I just don't like it. Yes alts will be less of a problem but then players just only go and play solo more in a matter like I don't care about anyone else and I probably know everything better anyway.

A team of 3 with 3 picks each is different than a team of 1 with 9 pick.

How it would be different? Are you saying that a team played by only one player should actually be played as a one person only? Then it wouldn't be 3v3, but 1v3 with more picks on one side. If your idea is exactly like that then how about orders' cycle? How about 2 duplicates + 1 different player? You would mess up cycle mechanics and fair play by doing that.

this feature would be allowed to form a team full of yourself only

There is no way that any game creator would do that.

We have alt teams, so it's pretty much allowed already... We are in some weird limbo atm, that it's perfectly fine to play team games by yourself but you have to make another account for that, which is weird.

I don't really agree with Mike's suggestion but personally I'd like to see alts gone from all ladders, including team ones. But first we would need a change to boot settings. I played a bunch of Risk-like games other than Warlight and in none of them going beyond the timer resulted in an instant loss. Paired with WL's unforgiving rating system that's just bad design.

It hurts to see that we already have all necessary options coded in WL, but they just aren't used... Turning to AI in team games is all we need. That and attack-only/attack with % on 3v3. Beren, is there any chance to make Fizzer change these settings? It's just a template modification, no coding required.

Waka I know nothing about network but aren't schools with random IP like in cybercafe ? Otherwise well in that case this situation could trigger something that would require both players involved to provide Fizzer's team with relevant documents within 30 days and after that they can't use the account. That's just an idea, not necessarily ideal, but there's always a solution to a problem :-)).

For your solo thing, well keep in mind that's already the case in MD for whoever has the patience to create and log into several accounts. In RT it would require triple amount of boot times, so not everybody would enjoy such games for this reason.

Rufus well no we misunderstood each other, otherwise just add more picks to the template would suffice but that's not the point. Stick to my previous posts if they are clearer to you.
Here is one example among others of how different it is : a team of 3 players with 3 picks each and controlled by one player is not the same as 1 player with 9 picks because in case of 2 picks in 1 bonus, in first case he may not be able to take ftb, in 2nd case he can.

Here is one example among others of how different it is : a team of 3 players with 3 picks each and controlled by one player is not the same as 1 player with 9 picks because in case of 2 picks in 1 bonus, in first case he may not be able to take ftb, in 2nd case he can.

That's why I am asking which one you prefer: 1x9 or 3x3?

In case of 1x9 a player would have disadvantage in the cycle (especially in the picking process), because it would be (A1 B1 B2 B3) or (B1 A1 B2 B3), so by saying he would have more chance to take ftb is not exactly correct.

If you talking about 3x3 then it's ok from fair play perspective and nothing really changes, besides the fact that one side would play "local deployment" type of game.

Edited 9/22/2017 13:38:06

doing things like that means Fizzer would have to manage accounts instead of working on the game all the time I feel like

No things can be automated, Fizzer is good at programming, and he can dedicate a team like he already does for forum moderation.

@Rufus well the point is to replicate what is currently done in 3v3 ladder by some players, but instead of using 3 profiles and email adresses, they would just use 1 profile and while in the game, a little button would let them take control of each "player" in their team. I've never talked about 1 team of 1 player with 9 picks other than to express that this can not replace the feature i'm suggesting. So not sure why you talk about it, this is just non sense to think about a game of 3 players with 3 picks each vs 1 player with 9 picks. Totally out of subject.

However, I'm wondering if there is a big difference between a 3v3 game between 2 players controlling 3 players each who all have 3 starts, and a 1v1 game between 2 players starting with 9 spots each ? If there's no difference then alts could be banned, my suggestion not created, and new 1v1 ladder added with 9 picks (in this example).

have you never played a team game?