I'll play at whatever speed I like for whatever reasons

Ok, but if your reasons are malicious or antagonistic, expect to be called out and judged for it.

Just because you are allowed to do something within the rules, doesn't make it good etiquette.

We create our own definitions, but that doesn't mean those definitions can be arbitrary. Instead, we typically benefit from defining words in useful, meaningful ways.

Right now you're redefining the term "stalling" to refer to just being slow (which we already have plenty of words for)... but that's not the definition of stalling people use when they talk about how stalling is a problem. You're trying to slap the label on a completely different issue. Why not just be honest and use the right word? Are you worried you're going to look like an idiot if you phrase your statements more honestly as "I don't like it when people play slowly?"

There's a good reason we have a proper definition of stalling and not just your bullshit one that has barely any meaning. It's because it's worthwhile to have a term for that specific type of ladder manipulation.

So your definition is essentially worthless, and I hope you can see why no one's going to take it seriously no matter how high you're able to get on the ladder.

you're redefining the term "stalling" to refer to just being slow

Slow on purpose, with malicious intent. Not "just being slow."

that's not the definition of stalling people use when they talk about how stalling is a problem

Well those people use a different definition than I do. Now that I've clarified what I mean, we can discuss the issue at hand.

Why not just be honest and use the right word?

lol I disagree your opinion = 'right'

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What malicious intent could someone have for playing slowly while they're winning?

Hey im Tiano xd

lol such a bad opening forum:P
Motd is the best atm on the game called warzone.com
(2-4) mod buns timinator
you dont have to be for long time arround to know that:P
right everyone said before me dont check only the ladder for how going on atm,
the most players had already got golden trophies at the ladders etc.
Buns need's only 3v3 ladder trophy,
Motd Mod had dominant everything last year and also Timinator doing amazing perfomance last month on MDL at the herdest ladder atm,
lol when i saw the

"kicorse would appear to be up there. i'm not very familiar with him but he's sitting at the top of the 1v1. 2v2 and 3v3 ladders lol. that would seem to imply some skill...

i don't think buns should make the list, his skills have not kept up with the times, he'd be lucky to crack the top 10 in the ladder today and he knows it. which is why he doesn't play.

Kerékgyártó Zoltán gets the award for consistently toughest against me personally but i don't know how he stacks up against others.

i like Thagomizer's style, robo-playing 5 at a time and hanging around in the top 10 of the 1v1 ladder, including picking up a 1st place trophy. we'll see if he has any staying power. "

lmao it was funny:P
anyway i loved the reply's on this forum:P

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btw 101st Blowfly is a god

What malicious intent could someone have for playing slowly while they're winning?

To be impolite.

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Stalling is bad, but two things that are worse are: (1) Trying to pressurise people into playing faster; (2) Trying to pressurise people into surrendering when they believe - rightly or wrongly - that they still have a chance of winning.

The last two are much bigger problems, but also the stalling - or suspected stalling - that I am aware of has generally been from people who are quick to throw false accusations at others. Not surprising really: people are either prepared to try for an unfair advantage by any method or by none.

Now, I have not done any of these things, and nor have 90+% of my opponents (e.g. not a single instance in 89 games on the 1v1 ladder). What is sad is that they seem to be much more common among established players. I want to play strong opponents, but more importantly, I want to play people who enjoy the game and aren't out to prevent other people from enjoying the game.

2) is an issue for sure. I've been accused of stalling several times when I'm actually just trying to find a miracle. I'll also tend to take my turns slower then, as I'm trying to dream up a miracle, so it looks even more like stalling.

That doesn't apply to this situation, though. He's done it every turn.

"Stalling is bad? Throwing false accusation at others? I haven't done any of these things? " - Kicorse

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=14285465 Just a pity you had no problem being in a stalling team in this game. To get that cheap 3v3 ladder trophy on a already very weak 3v3 ladder at that time.

Don't play the politically correct game making this statement about stalling on the forum. When in this game you do the opposite.

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Stalling?

Since the community isn't able to agree on what constitutes stalling, there won't be any enforcement of rules against stalling.

bored of longer games-play Quick matches, with higher rating it is faster and better than 1v1 Ladder.

Sigh. We've been through this already. Not for Platinum's benefit, but for people worth talking to:

- My play speed in that game speaks for itself.
- Four months into my time on warlight, I was barely even aware that stalling was a thing, and certainly didn't monitor other people's play speeds. Nor should anyone have to, however long they've been playing.
- Even if I had, I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. He often plays slow in games he cares about, whether winning or losing. Also, he was by far the senior player on the team and therefore usually committed his orders last.
- That game was last year. We were #1 last week (among other times).

But even stallers deserve less contempt than someone who uses an alt account to troll new players with obviously false accusations, just because of a grudge against the clan they're in. But never mind that. This thread tells us everything we need to know about Platinum: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/292371-downtime-jan-4th?Offset=30 . If you can't control yourself, stay off the forums, or away from the game altogether.

If you were GG , Masters , Lynx , M'Hunters , Turtles , Gay/Straight / Black/white tall/short.. I would still call anybody out for stalling if there was a fair case to be made. If it makes you feel better to accuse my motives because of the 101st/Lynx grudge which there really is not (seriously there isn't, sorry to burst your bubble). Go ahead! but I hate stallers in a competitive sense, especially when they play the correct guy on the forums lecturing their thoughts on it. When they've done the deed themselves.

Thank you for responding though, last time you simply blacklisted me.

In regards to your response, In a high level team game, You decide everything as a team and you work as a team. I'm not buying this argument of "I did my own thing and my senior guy did his thing".. You had 9 games finished on the 3v3 ladder. You knew losing this game would lose #1.. and considering you have 3 trophies, You knew the game was over. I'm not buying the argument, You stalled as a team. Admit to it and cut the act lecturing about stalling.

Also, I don't care if you got the #1 trophy on the ladder last week or last year.. You got 1st place in the first place by stalling. The idea you stalled in the first place but get it later in a more honest way.. Doesn't make people forget your stalling shit.

Now to your personal attack on me that you seem so strong against me doing to you.. (Ironic much?) and "obviously false accusation".

1. I don't troll new players with alt accounts. But I will give props for being creative with that claim.
2. Regards to the thread, I had a poor day.. I was bit rough-edged for my point. However, I had a point and the frustration was at least understandable if you read the entire thread. Doesn't excuse it of course. I was wrong for the presentation for myself there and I'm sorry.

^ Although this has entirely no relevance to the thread and you simply wanted to personally attack me Kicorse to make me divert from your stalling and hope I would be more emotive than logical, I addressed it to show that I can admit I'm wrong, when I am wrong. I'm sure you could take some wisdom from that and apply it to your own being.

Since the community isn't able to agree on what constitutes stalling, there won't be any enforcement of rules against stalling.

That's funny, I was told there was one definition so agreed upon that it's the 'right' definition.

Platinum, the problem is you. Nobody else. And the effect of your actions is that it becomes impossible to do anything about stallers, because everyone is too busy dealing with the greater problem of trolling.

could you elabotate on what this trolling of new players on alts it?

@Wally,

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/276576-potential-new-official-ladder-rules

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/288945-official-ladder-rules-now-effect

He used his alt account, Rick Sanchez, to start trolling me with the same nonsense that you see above. The first game he did it, I was also playing with an alt account, but I was open about the fact that it was an alt (hence it was possible for him to troll me). He did not admit who he was. If you really want, I can dig out the games.

At the time, Platinum was not a familiar name to me anyway (but nor was Buns or Timinator, so that doesn't mean anything), so I just blacklisted and moved on. Didn't even mention it to anyone in 101st. But then it started filtering through in other ways.

I did actually notice what happened in that game as it finished, and I felt uncomfortable about it. I don't think that it was stalling, but I accept that it looks bad. I no longer care, however. It pales in comparison to what Platinum did, and my loyalty to my 3v3 team and to my clan has increased as a result of his actions. Also, although I have never stalled and never will, I no longer mind if other players stall against me. It really is a trivial problem compared with trolling.

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so its just that plat did whrite some stuff to you personally in a game once that holds up the community?

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Yeah what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ad bonds you together even more!