I voted, as so did others with a relatively yesterday..

The results have came out today and Ireland has passed Abortion with a landsliding victory for the Yes side, at a approximate 70/30 % victory.

What a wonderful day it is for Ireland, now the church is next ;)

I saw this comment on Reddit and I felt the need to share it here.

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Relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

TL;DR: Savita Halappanavar, a 31-year-old Indian-origin dentist, had sought a pregnancy termination when told she was miscarrying, but her request was denied due to Ireland's strict anti-abortion laws. She died of blood poisoning days after miscarrying in October 2012.

On 20 May 2018, the parents of Savita Halappanavar called for a Yes vote in Ireland's referendum on the repeal of the 8th Amendment, her father saying: "I hope the people of Ireland will vote yes for abortion, for the ladies of Ireland and the people of Ireland. I hope the people of Ireland remember my daughter Savita on the day of the referendum, and that what happened to her won’t happen to any other family."

This is the mural of Savita in Dublin, a focal point of reflection for the Yes side of this referendum today: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeH5wmaX0AEWnqi.jpg

And here are some of the messages:
https://twitter.com/laurafleur/status/1000300758271655936
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I'm so happy her death wasn't in vain. This is a victory for women's rights and for Ireland. It's great to see the country finally shake free from the fetters of the Catholic Church.

Now Northern Ireland just needs to follow.

Huh. Come to the States if you want to live somewhere progressive. We haven't had an established church since the 18th century and abortion has been legal since the 1970s.

Hell I think we've got more Irish people too. Here Savita would've just died of heart disease, diabetes, or bullet wounds like people ought to.

Edited 5/26/2018 19:30:47

A few notes:

1. ZBD may have implied that Northern Ireland is majority Catholic. It is not.

2. This doesn't mean all abortion is legal in Ireland. It just means that the legislature can make laws regarding abortion. Before, if they tried to make laws it would be against the 8th amendment and presumably unconstitutional although exceptions were made recently in cases where the life of the mother was in danger (but not from suicide).

3. The YES side in Ireland was campaigning for abortion up until 12 weeks which is actually a pro life position if you lived in a rich country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law

4. There are secular arguments for human life beginning before birth and improvements to medical science are starting to justify a 22 week ban on Abortion except in extraordinary circumstances.

For example, unique DNA, unique heartbeat, and a unique blood type should imply a unique human being.

In my opinion, if you are ending an independent heartbeat then this isn't the same thing as removing a kidney.

Fetal pain research is also shifting scientific consensus.

Edited 5/26/2018 20:09:16

Huh. Come to the States if you want to live somewhere progressive.

If shooting up people based on their skincolour, or because they are going to school is progressive, then sure go ahead.


On topic, congrats to Ireland! Big step!

Edited 5/26/2018 20:33:15

Of course it's not the same as removing a kidney. Kidneys actually serve a purpose within your body.

NI is actually more conservative than ireland, imo the current abortion law is too strict but I don't want this to be a sign of approval for abortion without thinking.

Babies don't serve a purpose to a would-be mother's body because they aren't part of her body.

Neither are tapeworms.

tapeworms don't have human DNA.

Mohammad 1: "Oh shit you got Mohammad 2's 7 year old daughter pregnant! He's gonna be pissed! He was going to marry her off to Mohammad 4!

Mohamad 3: Shit, time to invent the ProChoice Movement!

Mohhamad 1: The what?

Why do they need numbers after their names when the names are all spelled differently, Kilos?

tapeworms don't have human DNA.

Humans and tapeworms share some common DNA because of how evolution works. How are tapeworms related to abortion anyway?

I couldn't be more disappointed.

@DanWZ: tapeworms and fetuses are both common parasitic organisms found in humans.

tapeworms aren't parasites that will pay back the deficit they have created over their lifetime ex. taking care of you when you're old, continuing to grow the family fortune

>mud person dies of a blood infection
ain't news

Taking care of you when you're old and debilitated? That's what money is for.

Haha, you think your children will take care of you when you are old? How naive. Not in the developed world, I tell you.

If shooting up people based on their skincolour, or because they are going to school is progressive, then sure go ahead.

Fight stupid with stupid ! Do it !

Mohammad 1: "Oh shit you got Mohammad 2's 7 year old daughter pregnant! He's gonna be pissed! He was going to marry her off to Mohammad 4!

Mohamad 3: Shit, time to invent the ProChoice Movement!

Mohhamad 1: The what?

haha

Haha, you think your children will take care of you when you are old? How naive. Not in the developed world, I tell you.

You don't think Japan and Taiwan are developped? I mean that's pretty much how every country works aside from very rich ones that don't need to and lost the tradition.