I think when we're discussing the elitism issue, we need to be serious and think about the nuance behind every seemingly elitist action that takes place rather than to promote black and white thinking based on 1 variable.
Weaker players showing a strong willingness to improve are valued by many clans. In fact, 101st rushes after these players faster than an American rushes after a plate of smoked bacon. Sometimes I can find a new player on the ladder, and I can click on their profile: I refresh their page 2 seconds later and they are in 101st. I question myself if I am dreaming sometimes with that clan. :P
Okay jokes aside, I remember two users whose names I guess I won't say, whom both played on the ladders and are reasonably skilled players. Can you guess who any of them are? Well one of these users would insult the weaker victors who came out on top over them, while the other would insult all victors equally.
The former could be considered an elitist according to a few people here, while the latter could just be considered an asshole. However if you think a bit further, the user who insults only weaker players isn't an elitist either. He just simply doesn't like losing to players below his skill level. He wants to make sure his opponent knows he's not better than him so he throws in a butthurt comment.
I think that 90s metric might have some merit if we have players who literally only greet those who are highly skilled, but I think many elite players greet based on kinship, not based on skill, and even then, many still don't greet at all. I see many if not most high-skill games in which neither player greets each other too.
Elitism based off of whether or not someone says "hi gl" to their opponent seems flimsy at best since "elitism" itself has not been explicitly defined by a testable set of criteria. Unless your definition of elitism is a player who doesn't greet their opponent, which is intuitively what you are claiming (which, from what platinum indicates with his definition, this does not seem to be a good proxy definition for "elitism").
If you wanted to prove your theory that whether someone who does not greet their opponent is clearly a sign of elitism, first you must prove with statistical certainty that it is. Until you do this my conscience as a scientist will reject that metric.
lol. so much debate about elitism, allow me to chip in on a subject we all have to endure to some degree or another.
it basically comes down to the fact that humans have egos and if allowed to fester they can reach a point where it suppresses their empathy.
every country on this planet is and elitist society, it serves the interests of the few to convince the many that their greed is a good thing. You will always have the less aware that believe the elitist when they use words like democracy and equality but in does not matter how much bullshit you pile upon it the truth is always there.
there is an amazonian tribe around 10,000 strong that have no social hierarchy, the smallest child has the same value as the oldest adult. prob the best example that exists today of a decent social system but i am sure there has been many in human history but its not a history any elitist would want taught in their education systems, but i am going off track, lol.
back to wl, well as everyone on here will of been subjected to an elitist culture its no great stretch to predict elements of that encroatching into the forums of a fun but competitive game. it is just human nature to copy people, and unfortunately alot of people look up to the elitist in these cultures and wanna be like them.
and as elitist is just a posh name for arsehole we end up with a socioty filled with arseholes. but lets hope we can keep them to a minimum on wl.
so lets cut the shit and change the thread to "who on warlinght is an arsehole". lol
