If Ver or anyone else in WG is an alt, i would like any information on this. We do not allow alts in WG, so obviously we have no knowledge of this. Also, IMO anybody that has alts in more than one clan without both clans knowing should be banned from all future clan leagues.

I just thought about how busy Gnuff was. WL consumed him. Games as Gnuff, building up alts to play the ladders, using alts to spy, using friends' accounts to cheat, keeping track of tournaments' stats so his results are clearer for all to see, chatting on Skype for hours about silly things related to WL. He just needs a vacation. WL = Gnuff's RL.

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What does it matter now? Forgive him, who cares? So he cheated at warlight?* Plenty of people do that, nobody cares because warlight isn't important. it doesn't matter. So he wasn't a very nice guy?* Not many people are, there's plenty of braggers here. Gnuff was an easy guy to ignore if you weren't fond of him. Clan espionage?* Oh noes! How dare he! Blackball him until the end of time! Um, who actually is so precious about their dumb clan. Get real.

Another thing is, JSA and beetlebum posting on this thread, *hypocrisy klaxon*

I just thought about how busy Gnuff was. WL consumed him.

Jeez, a young man who was obsessed with a computer game. How terrible, you don't hear about that kind of thing very much. Srsly, who even cares, and if youre going to be so judgy, tell the guy himself, no need to make forum posts about it.

*I assume this is the gist of the thread, I haven't read a whole lot of it because it was very boring.

I`m not saying he was a bad guy. Although I haven`t talked to him much, he seemed like a nice guy. And he will not be forgotten, nor go into Wl`s history as a big cheater. He was still a very good player, and will be remembered for that. The use of alts is just a bit shocking to me, thats all. I think it is to most of us like that (probably except Qi and Bez, cause they knew it all anyways :\)

But still, for people like FlyingBender this must be less fun (although you should never trust you account details to somebody, unless you know them in personal, or change your account details for that person and change them back later so they can`t abuse it.)

X, you could say the same about Righ. You had your fun. Why did you expose Righ for cheating online? Plenty of people cheat online. Big deal. So he says he was a great man. Big deal. Let the little man have his special fake life.

Should we be kind to Gnuff, and let him think cheating is acceptable? Has he shown remorse? Has he apologized to those of us he manipulated? Will he change his future behavior? Or will he be a cheat the rest of his life, and attempt to harm/manipulate people in real life, like Righ?

For over a year Gnuff has been talking shit, cheating, abusing people's trust, bragging, manipulating WL.

I will have my fun until (a) Gnuff apologizes to me and others in public and comes clean with everything he did, (b) Fizzer punishes Gnuff or makes it so others can't abuse the ladders or (c) I become bored.

Friendships, leagues, tournaments, ladders, trust, sportsmanship habe all been abused. If any of this matters, perhaps Gnuff should regain some of his confidence and deal with it all in public like a man.

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:( Qi doesn't allow me to agree with x..

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This thread: a bunch of people who take a computer game way too seriously, castigating a guy who took the same game too seriously.

Not a moment of levity, nothing remotely interesting unless you are completely obsessed with WL gossip.

When a top player cheats a lot, it is scandalous.

No, Gui. It really isn't. Get a grip.

Why I can never rate Gnuff higher than the 5th best player ever, if forced to make a list:

Yeah, um, nobody was forcing you. You understand there's a difference between "lol gnuffles you're so arrogant, you aren't really the best ever ;)" and "I HAVE WRITTEN 2000 WORDS ABOUT WHY I CONSIDER YOU TO BE MERELY THE 8TH BEST PLAYER"?

I'm trying to re-read this thread again but I physically cannot, it is so petty and meaningless that my eyeballs rebel and start skipping lines.

I get that with all Beelzebub posts anyway. He is that overcaffeinated italian woman who keeps talking on and on and on at rapid speed blahblahblahblahblahblahbabababababibibibibibababa and gesticulating wildly and you have no idea what she is saying and you just want her to SHUT UP, oh my god.

"Oh no, gnuffone derogated a bunch of top players behind their back!"

Honestly, who cares? I don't give a shit what Gnuffone said about me, if he felt the need to insult me then that is only endearing, because he felt inferior to me somehow. What kind of prissy bitch would actually be scandalised by that? Other than JSA, I mean.

"OMG you'll never guess what Gnuffone said about y-" shut up, you snivelling child.

Maybe he'll take a course in English and improve his grammar.

MRAOWRRR! catfight!

gnuffone cheated in a game from 2 years ago or whatever :'(

alright then, gnuffone cheated at warlight. that's it? bad riddance to good rubbish, then. can we do something fun now?[/thread]

X, you could say the same about Righ. You had your fun. Why did you expose Righ for cheating online? Plenty of people cheat online. Big deal. So he says he was a great man. Big deal. Let the little man have his special fake life.

Knew this was coming, even considered pre-empting it, but no need.

1. Righ Knight was funny. His websites were very amusing. Gnuffone is boring.

For one thing, there's a huge gap between Righ's self-image and real image, whereas gnuffone isn't completely delusional, just arrogant.

2. Righ was actually having a negative impact on other people's lives, objectifying women and attempting to con sick and vulnerable people. (I will accept the point that real life is as unimportant as warlight, and that, in the grand scheme of things, Righ Knight was completely irrelvent.)

3. I wasn't on some crusade against Righ. Matter of fact, I specifically said at the top of the thread that lots of people have succeeded doing what he does, and I advised him to use spell check.

4. I didn't discover all his activities, allow him to carry on with it, and then dish on him as soon as he announced he was leaving warlight.

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Usually, when something bores me but interests other people, I keep my thoughts to myself.

X, you say "Don't waste words on something so petty." But you are wasting words on this same topic.

Either we are both petty fools, or we have different interests.

And if it is the latter, who are you to tell me what my interests can be? Has Gnuff hacked your account? Cheated in common games or tournaments? Did he violate rules of leagues you created? Did he build himself up at your expense? Did he betray your trust? Did he talk shit about you?

Aside from self-righteousness, as if you are some sort of atheist missionary, I don't see how any of this even concerns you. Or does playing devil's advocate excite you, and you don't even believe the words you spend so much time wasting?

It took an effort to read all this. I ask myself if this is nt, with all what came up here, just the icing on the *hit.


BTW: Who is this Gnuffone guy???

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I just want people to lay off Gnuffone and stop with the holier-than-thou, self-important hypocrisy.

Has Gnuff hacked your account? Cheated in common games or tournaments? Did he violate rules of leagues you created? Did he build himself up at your expense? Did he betray your trust? Did he talk shit about you?

:'(

You're right. Gnuffone has committed a terrible crime. HE VIOLATED THE RULES OF LEAGUES YOU CREATED!!!!

HE MUST DIE

GNUFFONE, PROSTRATE YOURSELF BEFORE GUI AND REPENT

Dam Qi took the words out of my mouth.

Zap, you seem to pay too much attention to this post for someone who claims that he doesn't care.
And yes, you have no right to ask people to shut up about it even if he had done the same thing to you.(which seems not the case)
This is not flaming or back stabbing, its just reporting it for the common good because we (I mean decent honest players) deserve to know and helps us to learn from our mistakes.

1. Righ's photos make him look as if he is a bit deranged and a few steps away from suicide or harming others. You may have pushed him a step or two closer. His mental health is concerning. Gnuff is mentally stable.

2. Righ was having a negative impact? On whom? Did you not see the quality of his websites and information? He was having a positive impact on the companies he paid to keep his websites running and to give him followers! If anything, Righ will have a negative impact on your life when he hunts you down like the mentally disturbed person he apppears to be.

3. Meaningless words.

4. Neither did I. I dished on Gnuff the moment I read his post of fake accomplishments. I knew only the tip of the iceberg. And, again, Gnuff isn't leaving. He just wanted recognition for how great he thinks he is. Three years ago when I first met him, it was the same thing. He was a mediocre player at best who wanted recognition because he thought he was good. When he became good he wanted recognition because he thought he was great. When he became great he wanted recognition because he thought he was the best. But he had never so explicitly made an argument as such. Before, he would simply insinuate, build himself up, put others down, or brag. To actually make an argument of such magnitude and then act like he is quitting does not mean nobody can respond to it. Debate doesn't work that way.

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X, you are wrong. I am right. I am retiring (for the night). Debate over. I win. Bye Warlight. Please only stroke my ego now.

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I don't see suicide as being inherently wrong, frankly it is a good option for some people, a mercy killing. Personally, I believe that medically assisted suicide should be an option for everybody, with heavy regulations obviously. For some people, depression is an untreatable disease.

Righ's day of reckoning would come eventually, if I was a catalyst for that then good. I've actually already considered this specific matter. You see, I think about the effects of my words before I say them. Well, I try to.

Either we are both petty fools, or we have different interests.

We are both petty fools with differing interests. Warlight is a petty interest of mine, for you, Gnuffone, JSA and Beelze, it is more of a petty obsession.

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=6000&Offset=36

Prophetic words from Piggy and Red.

X, do you really like cupcakes?

My favourite flavours are lemon and chocolate. I don't like tiny cupcakes because those are just annoying, I like a nice big cupcake that you can really sink your teeth into, that is fully satisfying.

If anyone else has any other questions for me I'll gladly answer them.

How about muffins? Muffins are chocolate.. I don't know if there are lemon muffins, but as for the chocolate ones - do you prefer them with raisins? I definitely prefer crunchy butter cookies with chocolate chips to muffins though.. I like the delicacy of the chocolate bits into which my teeth just sink - With a proper crunchyness of the rest, the overall experience is just epic!

Hi Fridge,

There are lots of kind of muffins, not just chocolate. Most common is blueberry really, but as stated I prefer chocolate. Although some have really too much chocolate, with chocolate chunks and icing as well as being also chocolate ... it can be too much.

I don't like raisins generally. I believe there should be segregation between fruit and dessert. Separate but equal. (Certain fruits eg strawberry I would classify as dessert, in and of themselves.)

I like to have cookies with milk (I drink vegan milk now, it's made from hazelnuts).

There are two memorable muffin-related sitcom moments, Jenna's song "Muffin Top" in 30 Rock and "Top of the muffin ... TO YOU!" in Seinfeld. There's also the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode "The Muffin Top" but that's not actually about muffins per se.

I ate too much Japanese and Godiva chocolate. Can't sleep.

X, why do you attack Belz, Gnuff, and me? Gnuff is a shitty student who doesn't enjoy learning, so WL helps him have fun. Belz just really loves playing games. He rarely pops up in the forum. I am an exile, see my wife once every week or two, see my family once every year or two, and am in a shitty time zone that doesn't allow me to communicate with family well. Doesn't WL serve the interests of different people in different ways? Why do you judge?

About something I didn't notice: "Why I can never rate Gnuff higher than the 5th best player ever, if forced to make a list."

This was intended for Gnuff to read. He always asks me to rank people. It is the first time I answered this question directly. It is relevant to the first post of this thread. Sure, it is shitty writing. I acknowledged that the moment I wrote it. But it is a public response to Gnuff's numerous private supplications. Target audience determines what I write.

If every piece of bad English on WL were to be dissected, I would ask you why you used the word "judgy." Personally, I try to avoid all adjectives that end in -y if I can. Such adjectives sound rather effiminate, and usually there are better word choices that don't seem so forced or unnatural. But that is just my preference.

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