I think MHunters should vote first, and send that to a 3rd party (someone not in division A). That is how I did it with my vote. So that you know I am not altering my vote after seeing everyone else vote.

Not saying you would, but it would be pretty easy to get a template in/out that was close if you already know the totals before you vote.

Edited 1/22/2019 16:13:08

Wouldn't want another 3v3 GL in CL, now would we? ;)

What is wrong with GL?

Nothing ;)

Edited 1/22/2019 21:43:37

I actually think my map is fantastic BTW (no bias!)

Not sure I have any great templates on it yet, but that doesn't make the map bad.

I think MHunters should vote first, and send that to a 3rd party (someone not in division A). That is how I did it with my vote. So that you know I am not altering my vote after seeing everyone else vote.

Not saying you would, but it would be pretty easy to get a template in/out that was close if you already know the totals before you vote.

That is a good point. I don't decide stuff like this for MH and some clans have already voted, however I will see if I can coordinate something and let Audit get a hold of the MH vote as soon as possible.

Audit panel members are in A.

Using a time-stamped and/or password protected environment where access is granted after the deadline could do the job could do the job.

When TBest said he alreay received votes, then sending our votes to a 3rd party now would really make no difference because that wouldn't prevent him from potentially telling us (the MH contacts) the votes of the other clans.
Guess that you have to trust TBest in this case.

In order to push a certain template over the required threshold without hampering the chances of a template we want more, we would probably have to have almost all votes. From the perspective of REWARD/(RISK X EFFORT), we'd rather pass on this cheating opportunity.

Since you guys take this kinda seriously, let just M'Hunter calculate a hash value from the mail we are sending to TBest and then post the hash to the public forums. This is the first link I found online: https://hashgenerator.de/. Then after the voting is over, we can post the mail in the forums and you guys can check whether the hashes match.

Edited 1/23/2019 19:19:00

Personally I see no reason to give TBest and MH to go through that hassle. You either trust TBest to run the league or you don't.

Edited 1/23/2019 20:13:18

That worked well last time...

HAHAHAHA ROFL LOL

In my opinion it makes more sense to put my trust into management a second time than to go to ridiculous length/to start questioning everything they do.

Given that he is running a free league in his time for us.

From an audit panel point of view, I think Norman's proposed solution is elegant enough.

Also, "trust" is a heavy word. Ideally, you don't want a system where you need to trust someone, you want checks and balances. I'm personally happy to see that both TBest and Norman took initial steps to allow for a verification.

If you haven't sent me the votes yet, you are running out of time btw. So do that

I really hope this works.

This is the hash value that we sent to TBest. Hash method was SHA-256.

37715d9709490b79e8459ec2980d75b2767b5df074aa8f16536b00085f27d25e

We will post the encrypted original mail here after the voting is over.

Edited 1/24/2019 15:24:35

Timer has expired!

how long do you think it will take to post the results? Sorry, I am eager to find out and start planning lineup.

There will be a CL stream tomorrow hosted by Farah [time is up to Farah]. They will, at the latest be ready for that stream.

{I know the stream hasn't been super well advertised (mentioned a few times in the passing in the announcement thread), but I hope it will still be a good event and maybe we can even get a free to join coin tournament at the end! Also, the Q's will be drawn at that stream.}

In other words ASAP :) It won't be immediately thru, since I have to do some other irl stuff first.


EDIT: Also, the sheet has listed the clans who have voted. Soooo if you voted but are not there let me know :)

Edited 1/24/2019 16:25:20

Where is that sheet? I can't find the link at the beginning of this thread or the announcements one.

EDIT: Oh, is it the one in Div A thread? If so, I can see a voting tab, but it doesn't show who you have votes from. I know Reza sent ours last night, so if you don't have it please let me know.

Edited 1/24/2019 16:32:30