Mike
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About the drama on subs and slots, here are my 2 cts (how so is it too late now !? Live with it, especially if this can in any way help preventing another end of season drama...) :
Timi was the first to sum it all up : subs =/= slots
Once line ups are made public, you can still sub players, but then subs count as "used subs" and are not "free" any more. Clans are free to make their 6 subs allowed right after announcement of line ups, but then again they risk severe losses on boots without the right for further replacement later during the season. That's probably part of the reasons why CL Panel limited subs to 6, and that clans do not use (any of) their subs before any tournament start, unless something happens.
Now about slots : with this sub, AI will end up playing in exactly 3 tourneys overall, not 4, because the sub happenned before AI could take part in his dropped out tourney as it hadn't started. So that basically shows that AI respects that part of the slots rule.
With the way this rule was written, and what was said previously by MOTD or TBest, AI should indeed not be allowed to do so. But TBest and MOTD just strictly followed the rule as it was written, and by now you normally realise that the rule was wrongly written, as what mattered was to count for subs from roster publication and for slots from start of tournaments. Everything else doesn't serve the purpose of CL, a savvy and the strongest competition of WZ.
Should AI be sanctionned for missing out on a rule which makes everything but sense in first place and his move being accepted by the CL Panel ? That would be an open door to punishments left and right, a bit like in CL10 (another subject though). Or should we rather see this as an opportunity to spot and fix a rule that was not originally thought or written correctly and improve CL further ?
The final remaining tricky question is : should this rule be fixed for CL11 or CL12 ? Or rather, for everybody in CL11 including AI, or everybody in CL11 except AI because the rule was not actually changed before the tournament started ?
To answer this question, it may be difficult for some people as this may require to investigate a little bit and thus use cells they may have in their brain, so for those please focus and stay with me. The sub was aimed to replace RNK, who had been AWOL for 20 days at the time of the request. So was the sub aimed at exploit a wrongly written rule and take any benefit from it ? No. This should answer the question, and without using the bad words "morale", "friendly competition" or "add work to the organizers".
Now should other clans benefit from this precedent ? Sure, it would be totally unfair for them otherwise. Just make sure you respect the criteria of the situation in this precedent. You only sub out players with 20 days AWOL, you guarantee he will not be subbed in again during the remaining of the season, and the tournament hasn't been created yet at the time of your request.
Hope this helps.
Ps while I'm here : Lin, I miss you too bruh ;)
On a side note : before some of you say I talk while I don't even play in CL11. I do play, just not with my own account. What ?!
Also guys, why are you so scared of MH ? And do you really think this sub is the reason that will change your final place in div A ? Or for the haters prevent MH from relegating ? I know last season in CL10 div A we sent our team B and played CL10 by the rules so did not benefit from any cheat and yet we stayed in, but now we are sending our team C, most without template practice, and even have reduced further our overall roster as an additionnal handicap, so come on, keep faith ! Also keep in mind we are a clan improving through training during internal events, and sometimes by recruiting fresh, as in clan less, players. While you guys keep poaching the top players from other clans. So really, why are you so scared of us ?
Oh wait wrong topic, this is not trash talk ?! Sorry I'm too lazy to edit. Ok now you may hate, I deserve it :P :D
Btw, totally unrelated subject. If any of the remaining Masters are looking for a good clan or to play in CL11, feel free to get poa... I mean, to contact us. We also have TBest running CL so covering all of our cheatings in order to ensure we finish at a good position and look good.
Also, quick announcement while I'm at it ; I'm looking for a good player to use my account and bring it with 2 of his alts to 1st place in 3v3 ladder, I just don't have time for this. Thanks.
Farah, I didn't have the chance to say it, so welcome back to the clan ! I knew it ! Love you ! Ofc, this doesn't have the same effect now. Also, please don't spam this thread with funny and interesting updates you have the secret of, as they may cause losing track of the dramas, trash talks, Outlaws ongoing humiliation and off topics of this thread.
Good CL everyone !
Edited 3/3/2019 22:22:06
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